Would we like Twilight if it weren’t for Edward?

ednmmDear Team Edward,

Close your eyes and think about your love for the Twilight series books. And now let your heart go ‘pitter-patter’ as you think of and feel your connection with Edward Cullen. Now, with your eyes still closed, shift your focus to the sub-par movie version of the beloved book series we’ve been focusing our energy on. What are you feeling? Super annoyed that after your most recent viewing of the movie you thought, “Wow… it’s really 2nd-hand embarrassing that my teenage sister and her friends just walked away from this movie and I’m still sitting here.”

I love Twilight. Plus having Rob as the hottest freaking vampire ever doesn’t hurt. But there are those of you (and some are crazy, sure) who thought it was a brilliant movie (That’s Not Normal), and then some of you LOVE the movie, but not because it was brilliant and not necesarily because of Rob. WHY!?

Before we jump into this today’s Twilosophy, let me define my love for Twilight: I love the story; I love the world Stephenie built; I love the familiarity of the movie and the way it made me feel when I saw the amazing book brought to life on the big screen the first time. Even though, during my first viewing, I had this nagging feeling of “that movie wasn’t that well-done,” I still loved it because I remembered what losing my Twi-virginity was like. So when I say “I/you/we love the movie,” that’s what I ednmm3mean. I don’t mean I love it like I love “Whatever works,” my ‘best movie of 2009’ pick so far or like “500 Days of Summer,” or my love for “Waitress” or “Junebug.” No, no, no. I mean I love Twilight because it’s given me an amazing friendship with Moon- and with many of you- plus given me an opportunity to laugh, A LOT, and meet people in this amazing community we all built together.

So getting back to you closing your eyes feeling that love for Edward yet conflicted by the sub-par movie Edward starred in, I have to ask: Would we like Twilight the movie if it weren’t for Edward? And by “Edward,” I mean, Rob, playing our beloved Edward. Yes, we love the books & we love the story- so maybe we’d give it a second watch. But would we love the movie so much that we become interested with people baedcalnmmrely involved with the movie, (the 100 monkeys, Bobby Long or Sam Bradley) or would we just push it off as a teenage movie that’s supposed to be bad? How much did Rob’s hottness and Rob’s portrayal of Edward have to do with the success? Do we make excuses for Twilight because of our attraction to Rob?

I posed this question to a group of LTT readers and loved their responses. Join the convo after the jump!

Would you love Twilight even without Rob as Edward?

JBell: YES I WOULD LOVE IT! Robward = beautiful? Says who?? I went back to the theater 5 times just to catch a glimpse of Buttcrack Santa. “…didn’t know how to make a kitty meowwwww…” That’s my ringtone, text tone and email tone. I just CANNOT get enough. And Kristen with the blinking and the stuttering!? PSH! Fahgetaboutit! HAWT. Robwho?

ednmm2Too_Far_Gone: I think Twilight was a great movie. Except Kristen Stewart’s performance – she was no match for my Robbie- my favourite actor in the film, Robert Pattinson. I think he did a fine job and is just an overall lovely bloke.

EastFriend: Twilight was a bare display shelf. It was bare. Lonely. Boring. Uninteresting. Rob was the Sprinkles cupcake sitting in that shelf. And all was right with the world. The end.

Janetrigs: If Robward wasn’t as hot, I think we would all still find the actor endearing unless he was a total asshole, because he is portraying a beloved character. Twilight the movie sucks the balls of a f**king goat, because it’s based on a book that had some of the worst published writing I’ve ever read. Not to mention adding strange twists that involve googling about legends, then buying a book on legends and then re-googling about said legends. Effing Retarded. Also there are entirely too many scenes (by that I mean 2 different scenes), which involved mindless games of catch. Catty Hardwicke is mindless, so it makes sense. I wish someone could have taken the awesome idea for the story Stephanie Meyer wrote, but wrote it better, then created a shortened version of the movie. But bad writing is bad writing.

Heyyy brother: Let’s be honest: I would straight up despise the movie if I hadn’t read the books first. Even being the fangirl of Twilight that I can be, and lusting after Rob like a dog in heat, I prefer to watch the movie with a solid three glasses of wine in my system. More if possible. Rob was the only saving grace initially. At first I hated Cougar & Co (Hardwicke and Rosenburg) for butchering it all so terribly, but the repeated inebriated viewings have taught me to love such atrocities as Buttcrack Santa, the spider monkey line, and Mike Newton’s delusion that he’s not a white bread boy from what must arguably be one of the least diverse regions of the country. If I’m being honest, Rob is probably what kept me coming back for more viewings. He’s the reason I kept giving it another chance. I can’t picture another Edward, but that could be because I read the books after he was cast, so I never had anyone but Rob in my head. But hey, you don’t see me complaining…

So… do I love the movie? Heck yes. But do I love it the way that one might love a QUALITY movie like, say, The Princess Bride? No. I love it because I get to drool over Robward for 122 minutes. I love it because there is no better movie to simultaneously laugh and squee over with some girlfriends and a bottle (or three) of wine. I love it because it’s terrible and I have no shame.

Moon: The movie sucked, so of course Rob as the Edward-eye candy totally helped make it better, but in the end he’s just the actor who played Edward from the story we all love. Edward could have been anyone: Kellan, Jackson, whoeverit and I’d still like it cause it’s Twilight. The movie was a POS but ultimately, I love it because of the story. We love the saga and the movie is just one person’s artistic interpretation of that story. At the end of the day people fell in love with the story first and not Rob.

I’m sure Rob brought in a few looky-loo’s, but if the story was terrible to begin with, no one would be as obsessed as we all are now. For the story to ultimately overcome a lackluster film version and to pull in fans who had never even read the saga before seeing the movie, it points to how powerful Stephenie Meyer’s novels really are. Amen

ednmmcalSo where am I? I’m torn between HeyyyBrother and Moon. Before I wrote this post I thought I was going to admit that I really only like the movie because Rob plays Edward and Edward is the manvamp I would like to fall in love with me, do stuff like leg hitches, snuggle in my room at night and ultimately take me to Isle Esme & bite me. In a special place ifyouknowwhati’msaying. But Moon is right. If someone else played Edward, as long as he was great looking & did a great job, we’d probably have a “letterstotheotherguy” blog. So I do love Twilight, the sub-par movie, a TON because of Rob playing Edward, but I mostly love it because Rob plays Edward who was created in a book series that through bad writing, good writing, repetitive words and words no teenager says, you have to admit has captivated tens of millions people of all ages around the world and as a result, made a movie, that might otherwise be cast aside as a “badly done teenage romance,” really successful

Class dismissed,

What are YOUR thoughts!? Where do you stand? And I wanna hear from people who AREN’T crazy Rob fans but still love the movie. I know you’re out there! Explicame! Why do YOU love Twilight!?

-Yesterday on The Forum, Emmeloowhoo launched Biggest Loser LTT Go there now to figure out what in the WORLD that is!
-Then go tell Rob thanks for making you love a sub-par move on LTR

OverDose of Edward pics courtesy of Source

  • Jena

    Twilight wouldn’t be Twilight without Edward. And Edward wouldn’t be Edward without Rob. True story. Trust!

  • Jena

    Twilight wouldn’t be Twilight without Edward. And Edward wouldn’t be Edward without Rob. True story. Trust!

  • Proselyte3

    I love you UC…but I’m not sure if I feel deep enough to answer this question today….I’ll try.

    *squinting eyes* *wheels obviously turning*

    In a word, no.

    I kid…srsly…I needed an escape, I needed a change, I needed to be inspired, I needed to have s/t to look forward to, I needed to be woken up…

    Twi oddly, and very unexpectantly accomplished this for me. Weird. Even weirder…Rob turns my crank like no other before or since (love you Hubs!)
    Yes, the movie was bad, so is junk food…I eat it. Yes, the writing of the books was subpar compared to what I was used to…but some of my fav. books, poems, songs, movies, etc…are also my children’s. It was published for a youth based demo.. I’m accommodating. Yes, I think in RL Rob and I would murder each other (after having angry, blissful, mind-blowing sex in various states of undress, in misc. locale of course first.) 😉 However, I will continue to follow his career for as long as he has one, and possibly stalk him in RL after that with the help of private detectives, and my children’s nest egg…..wait. What?

    • HeyyyBrother

      hahaha I love this. And you, in turn.

      • Proselyte3

        x Sis…you of course realize the above is written without even a SHRED of sarcasm?

        • lapushbaby

          Girly, I will add to your nest egg, any day. (thatswhatshesaid)

          • Proselyte3

            I’ll accept your addition, and raise you an asset (thatswhatshesaid)

            Yes, we clearly have issues. Move along ppl, nothing to see here…

        • HeyyyBrother

          Who could say something like this and not 100% MEAN IT:

          after having angry, blissful, mind-blowing sex in various states of undress, in misc. locale of course first.

          • Proselyte3


  • HeyyyBrother

    I’m with myself (duh) and Moon on this one, just like you are UC. I would probably swoon over any guy that played Edward… Truth be told, I didn’t even notice Rob before I read Twilight. But that doesn’t mean I only like Rob BECAUSE he’s Edward… I don’t actually think he’s all that hot as Edward. Too much make-up and not enough scruff. But whatever.

    Also, Dear Janet Rigs: I love you. You’re hilarious. You already know that I feel this way, though. That is all.

    • I heart you too sister wife! I am so effing controversial!

  • amy

    i loved the books so if another actor played edward i would have still loved it…i only started dilfing rob after i saw the movie.That said cougar cat kinda slaughtered it abit wit the cheese…but i liked the whole visual aspect xcept the scene with the tree climbing..wtf??and the scene where edward is moving real fast near the volvo when he takes Bella home to “meet the folk”…cringeworthy…smallville has better effects…

  • tuesdaymidnight

    I’m totally with Moon on this one. The reason why I fell in love with Twilight (the books) because I read them at a point in my life where I needed a love story. The only movie I’ve ever seen that came close to being as good as the book was Fight Club, (and even then the movie botched the ending). Twilight (the movie) is awful. It was filmed like a bad music video. The acting overall wasn’t spectacular by any means. It omitted some important parts of the book. Yes, Rob is gorgeous, but he still doesn’t hold a candle to the Edward I had in my mind when I read the books.

    Yet, somehow I have seen this movie probably a dozen times. I have absolutely no idea why, and when it comes down to it, I don’t think I really want to know why Twilight has the power it does. It just does.

  • MidnightSin

    You all know MY story, why I watched/read this book/movie…but WHY this one?? My daughter chose THIS ONE in particular for a reason!! WHY? Well first, I find it interesting that the question was asked today, in light of Patrick Swayze’s passing.. .perhaps because of all the similarilties??. Most of you are probably too young to remember…but Dirty Dancing was much like Twilight. “back in the day” ..a poorly made movie that became a phenomenon which continues to this day! Not because of the great writing/acting/directing etc., but because of what it represented. Yes I was one of those crazy people that waited in line to be the first to see Dirty Dancing when it opened..hell I won’t even go into what I did to get a life-sized cardboard of Patrick… (back then they were only in the movie theaters and NOT for sale)…but I stray from the point…How easy it was/is to overlook so many BAD lines for that ONE good line…All the bad acting and there was/is alot…for those HEART-STOPPING moments. For each of us they may be different/same but they are in there and they reach out and touch/hold us and never let go. It is IN THAT LOOK/ THAT FEELING…that we are briefly permitted to let our go of our hectic/stressful lives and not so perfect (who is) better halves and lose ourselves in the ohhh so perfect world of make believe. Aren’t we all in this for the same reason? To feel the kind of love that Edward/Johnny offer us for just once/twice in our lifetimes! Of course its unreal…of course its unatainable…but that is why we love movies like Twilight/DirtyDancing so much. That is why my daughter chose Twilight! She knew that it had THAT magic! All the key ingredients that grab you regardless of age. She was right…I was 20 years old once again and “in love”…with Edward! Just as I was with Johnny so many years ago…back then I shared “my love” with my sister/bestfriend (she too taken way too young) and my closest friends…we talked constantly on the phone….(no internet..OMG) and we did just what we do here. We all share “the love of Edward” and not to forget Bella (who as “Baby”did ) represents for all of us our inperfections /insecurities. SOooo in answer to the original question…NO we would not love Twilight without Edward….he is everything and more that we could want in a man…but sadly, I must admit if another actor had played the part, I might have loved it anyway…(please don’t hurt me..I am already broken..) Rob does a great job…but like Patrick…it was the first real time out of the gate playing this type of role….but if history repeats and I am sure it will…Rob like Patrick (remember Ghost) gets better with age…

    Personally as you know, I am eternally greatful for what Twilight has done/continues to do for me..there is no way I will ever be able to show my appreciation for pulling me out of “my Twilight and allowing me to reach towards my New Dawn” corny but true….and it brought me here…I am no longer alone…(need tissues now…excuse me…)

    • Ang

      Dirty Dancing! What a great comparison (Johnny/Baby to Edward/Bella). I guess I’m “old” too.

    • lovemesomecullens

      I feel you on the whole Swayze thing. I remember when he was voted the sexiest man alive. I live close to where that movie was filmed, and people still go there to stay where Johnny and Baby stayed. So I agree very much with that!

      I actually watched the Twilight movie on DVD, much because my friend has family from Portland, etc. So we were checking out the settings more than anything. The story was OKAY…. I decided to begin lying, and went to the bookstore and got twilight for my “neice”. I read just Twilight and was hooked. I owned the box set (again for said neice) by the end of the week. Since then, I have choked these books down numerous people’s throats and quoted the movie, bought the rifftrax (love them) and shared many laughs about this low budget film.

      However, I dont know what it is about this story, movie, phenomenon, or what ever, but I love Twilight!

      Rob definately has so much to do with it, I don’t know that it would be the same without him. I think he matched very well Stephenie’s version of Edward. Cheezy lines, yes, but the visual for me was there.

      So, I say, why do we question our love? A love this pure cannot be defined. A love this pure will stand the test of time (and bad directors), and a love this pure… well, we are just lucky to know a love like this.

      Peace, love and Rob,

      • grrl

        It is all about Rob. I was “late to the party,” not even interested in the book or movie until I saw them on the MTV movie awards in 2008.

    • JodieO

      Well written, MS! But I have to disagree with you juuust a little. Aside from a few corny lines I think Dirty Dancing is actually a pretty good movie. Nothing can be too bad when Jerry Orbach is involved. =)

      • PinkDolphin

        I carried a watermelon.

        • JodieO

          That’s one of my favorite lines ever. For real. Because you know as soon as she says it how out of place and self-concious she feels. I was really cheezed when that was voted one of the worst movie lines ever. People voting must not have understood the movie.

          • PinkDolphin

            Every time I bring a watermelon home from the grocery store I say it because I’m just that cool.

          • Katie S

            I also recite that line whenever I carry a watermelon. Sometimes people don’t get it and just look at me like, “Yes. I know. I saw you.” And then I hit them over the head with the watermelon for not getting it. Geez.

          • JodieO

            Hee! I say it whenever I publicly do something that makes me fell dumb and self-concious. No actual watermelon required.

        • Xylem

          That is so Bella-eske adorkable. Baby would have made a great Bella. Um… Not to freak anybody out, but do you realize this movie came out in 1986… The year of birth of our beloved?

          • MidnightSin

            Oh Gawd..I am soooo old..

          • JodieO

            Dear god.. someone hand me my cane! EH? WHADJA SAY, SONNY??

          • MidnightSin

            @JodieO….Bitch..I have been searching all over for that damn cane for days now….xox….

          • JodieO

            @MS: NAH NAH NAH BOO BOO! Actually, I suppose I should give your cane back since it sounds like I’m not nearly as ancient as you!

            (I was only 11 in 1986)

            (Yes, I realize that still makes me OLD)

          • southernbelle

            Yes, we are trying not to remember his birthyear but since you mentioned it, yes! 🙂

          • MidnightSin

            @JodieO…..I didn’t say it was MY cane….just looking for a cane in general…have no idea why…just looking…you got a problem with that ole lady???

      • MidnightSin

        JO..I understand where your coming from…but what I was saying was that back when DD first came out…all the SAME things were said…low budget/bad lines/poor acting/directing etc..The jokes about the name “BABY” alone!! The coconut costumes etc.. LMAO .It wasn’t until YEARS later that it was recognised for the movie that it is now…and I feel that Twilight is following the same path….

    • Maira

      You put words to my feelings. Thanks!

  • GayAnn

    I read Twilight before there was even talk of a movie and I fell in love with “my” version of Edward in my mind. Although I thought the writing was kind of lame sometimes I still think that Stephanie captured the emotions you feel when you fall in love for the first time. The fact that it was with a hot vampire with special powers was a bonus.

    I was first skeptical of Rob cast as Edward, especially when I saw him on the cover of EW in July of 2008, but once I saw the movie, I thought he did a great job of portraying his internal struggle with what Edward was and his attraction and love for Bella. I love the movie because of the book and although I thought they screwed up a bunch of scenes and added some weird stuff I still think it captured the Edward/Bella relationship well.

    Rob became more of an obsession for me when I saw him in interviews and realized this guy was not only extremely good looking (with that stare that melts your heart), but was interesting. I love to listen to the commentary on the dvd – he is hilarious!

  • theEvilAngel

    This is a great post! I’ve thought alot about “why” I love the Twilight movie now when, upon first viewing it, I thought it was pretty awful. What made me watch a bad movie a second time (and then a third and so on)?? I’ve concluded that it’s because I love it for what it is (or accept it for what it is) and ignore what it is not. It is *not* well written, or well directed, and half of the musical score is plain terrible. The actors were not at the top of their games (but I blame the directing and writing on that). However, the movie still brings the characters to life. I look at it as an “interpretation” of the story, a glimpse at the characters, and nothing more. All the actors (not just Rob) have alot to do with my loving the movie despite its flaws — because they are just so likable in person. And to me, they truly *are* the characters now.

  • Jubbies

    I would just like to point out that my heart goes “pitter-Pattison”, not pitter-patter. That is all.

    • Katie S


    • Jubbies

      Good thing I spelled “Pattinson” wrong on my less than 20 word comment.

  • Nikki

    Thanks LTT. Your blog has made me feel less shamed about my edward-obsession! I agree that the movie was atrocious, especially when I saw it for the second time with my husband in tow and he LAUGHED when Edward put Bella on his back and ran/floated. However, I could care less about Rob. He is not and will never be the ideal image I had in my mind when I first picked up the book in ’05!

    • ohh….you’re an ‘oldie’… been reading the books for YEARS! Can you email me? I have some questions for a future post…:)

      • Nikki

        haha well I hope when you say “oldie” that’s not a BAD thing. 🙂

  • HeyyyBrother

    P.S. who else is not shocked that my contribution was the longest, most rambling of them all? It’s like I have a disease and I don’t know when to shut it.

    • MidnightSin

      Ahhh HB have ya noticed mine….shitz I have been writing that thing since 8am…lol…right there with ya!! <3

    • lapushbaby

      It’s really why I heart you.

    • Rob would marry you for that, you know. Cherish it.

  • Holly

    Rob’s hotness had everything to do with the success of movie, imo. The only reason why I read the Saga was because of Rob. I was a fan in the Cedric Diggory days and then when I saw the MTV Twilight Tuesday interviews, I was hooked. By the time the movie came out, I had become obsessed. I don’t like Rob b/c he’s Edward, though. I like Edward b/c he’s Rob. Normal?

  • maddy

    ok number one, i love the twilight movie because i love the twilight books. if i hadn’t read the books, yes i would have still enjoyed the storyline i’m sure (and obviously drooled over roberts amazing jawbone), but i wouldnt hold the love i have for it now. do i think twilight was an awesomely made movie? no. do i think the acting was insanely good? no. just looking at it from a strictly movie standpoint, it’s an ok movie overall. but like i said, i read the books, fell completely madly in love with the books, and hence enjoy the movie as well because i really love all things twilight. my favorite thing about the movie is when they got something right! example: in the resturaunt in port angeles bella says “you gotta give me some answers” edward reponds cheekily with “yes, no, to get to the other side, 1.7blahblah”….i love this scene because it really portrays edwards personality…he has that teasing light side to him in tough situations…and the look on robs face, how he delivered the words, how he marveled at bellas intelligence for a second knowing the square root of pie, and how he delivers the perfect look of anguish and self loathing when bella stands up to go. even though the scene doesnt go like that in the book, that little moment to me was completely edward-esque in my view of him in the story. so yeah, twilight isn’t up for any oscars, but when i see little glimpses of the actors bringing the characters to life like that, it makes me happy and makes me love the movie a little bit more.

    • maddy

      just realized i spelled pi…as pie. wowwwwww haha my calculus teacher would die if she knew that.

    • Pinky

      That was a great scene and you are so right about the snippets of goodness. When Cathy got it right…it was worth the abundance of cheese.

  • obird

    I only read the books after I saw the movie……I know gasp…..I was bored one night (ok a little drunk) and there were no other movies ondemand that I wanted to see and I was curious…..I didn’t understand what the hype was. I don’t know if it was the wine or what , but I actually liked the movie…..I bought the first book the next day….the rest, history. When I read the post today I was trying to think of why initially I liked the movie…..there were parts that were bad…..really bad…..ok, so I laughed in places I shouldn’t have….I mean Rob’s pronunciation of Debussy is enough to make you turn the damn movie off….don’t judge me I am a music nerd….I have degrees. Anyway, I remember that it wasn’t so much the movie, but the feeling that the whole movie gave off that I really liked. When I read the books…..I felt the same way. Yes, the writing is bad, yes she uses vocabulary that not just teenagers but people in general don’t use day to day….if ever. But who reads young adult fiction to enlighten their minds…..ummmm not me…..I just need something to keep me from killing the good people of NYC on my subway ride in the am. If you want the type of book to challenge your brain go read Malcom Gladwell. As for Rob in the movie…..he will always be Edward in my mind…..even when humping Spanish dudes in other films……the two are one in the same! Yep, he’s Robward. Now that my Rob lovin’ has cooked real good…..I keep watching the film only to see the candy…..and I might have a small crush on Charlie……don’t ask. Great post!!!

    Thanks UC for shooling us today!!

    Did I get an A on my daily essay response??? hehehee.

    • yes. you get the golden onion

      • obird

        YES!!! I am such a school nerd…..i need help.

      • MidnightSin

        Damn…I wanted that!!!!

        • MidnightSin

          (meant the golden onion…hell I have time on my hands…think I’ll paint an onion gold) OML what have I become????
          Imagine my utter surprise when I wake up tomorrow and see a freakin golden onion somewhere in the house…having no idea where it came from!!! Could be fun….how sad…I have no life….

    • Katie S

      I have a crush on Charlie as well. Own it!

      • tuesdaymidnight

        Haha, Billy Burke is the only reason why I’m looking forward to cringing my way through New Moon. Team Charlie all the way!

        • Katie S

          Mustache ride? Yeah, I went there.

          • tuesdaymidnight

            Hell yeah!

  • Katie S

    The movie (sad sigh) was terrible. It was laughable. Unintentionally. I had such high hopes after reading the book.

    The book, while not being very well written, is a beautiful story. I wanted SM to come to my house and read it to me at bedtime.

    Ok, now dare I admit this? Yes, I will… I didn’t think Rob acted that well in the movie. Do I blame him? Not at all. (“As if you could outrun me?” scene? Anyone?)

    It was painful. And yet it wasn’t so painful that couldn’t watch it a million times over. Especially with the commentary. Because you know he knows we know it sucked. You know? 🙂

    Oh and, ” Even being the fangirl of Twilight that I can be, and lusting after Rob like a dog in heat, I prefer to watch the movie with a solid three glasses of wine in my system. More if possible.”


    • lovemesomecullens

      “Because you know he knows we know it sucked. You know?”

      I hear you. Now, ask us if we care it sucked….

      And I think the fact that the Cougar did this for us, well, it helps us hold Twilight that much closer in our hearts. We laugh when we defend it, and we laugh when we make fun of it. Cougar Cathy, you may have shed more light and love on us than we are giving you credit for.

      SM- great story.
      Cougar Cathy-poor directing

      Together? Well, just look at us all.

      ‘Nuff said

      • Katie S

        The movie has become more of a resource for a giggle or swoon on a bad day than an exercise in watching film magic. And I have absolutely no problem with my little sercurity blankey named Twilight. And it definitely wouldn’t be as cozy without Rob.

    • Maira

      (”As if you could outrun me?” scene? Anyone?)

      All I can say: It sucks.

  • starryrae

    Hmm. I needed to think long & hard about this one and here goes: I really enjoyed reading the 1st 2.9 books (sorry but when Bella kissed Jacob I got mad & it just ruined Eclipse for me; don’t even get me started on Breaking Dawn). The movie was disappointing not because of the stars but the script & CH’s haphazard directing. But I still bought the DVD & you know which parts I watch repeatedly? The commentary & “Becoming Edward” extra. I think it’s because I’ve really grown to love Rob – his wit, his charm, his self-deprecating humor, etc. So to answer your question, yes Team Edward all the way but Rob made the difference – at least as far as the movie was concerned.

  • Kendall

    Totally agree with Moon, it’s about the story. The first time I saw the movie, I thought Rob was a terrible Edward. Sure he was beautiful to look at, but in my mind he was not Edward. I had built my own Twilight world in my head and seeing it interpreted on the screen for the first time was difficult. It’s not a great movie, I would dare to say it’s not even good. But yet, I still love it. I love that when I read the books I get so swept up in B and E’s story that I forget about everything else going on – good or bad. The movie even does that for me now. I can actually sit through it and fill in the blanks from the books where necessary. For me, the movie evokes the emotions I have when reading the saga and I can just get that little rush for 120 minutes. For me, with or without Rob, I’d still heart the movie.

  • I’da liked it regardless. I read Twilight and the books back in 2007 and liked Edward then. Rob and the movie are just icing on the cake.

  • trixi

    to me rob was not edaward. i had a different picture of edward in my head. not that rob is not good looking or anything. but not what i pictured as edward. rob seems a bit awkward to me as edward and he sometimes creeps me out.

    i hated the movie and liked it better when i was stoned and drunk. i am pretty sure that they used part of their budget on weed (i know it had to be good weed to because they shot in vancover) which made them think the sparkle effect was a good idea.

  • KinkyKiss

    Twilight is still my favorite book ever

    I read the book & fell in love
    Watched the movie and hated it
    the first couple times I saw it…
    Rob wasnt MY Edward but
    I lived through it
    & now i can tolerate watching it

    Cath Hard ruined Twilight for me
    with Buttcrack Santa, Animal attacks,
    or “You were gone…” LAME!!!

    I only watch it to see some things come to life
    and just pretend i was able to see the better
    things she missed or messed up

    “Let me restart my heart” … I die a little inside everytime I read that part in the book… Really Steph?

    But all in all… Rob and KStew couldnt have been picked better…

    I’m happy :]

  • Holly

    Robsessd just put this up. Watch if you need a laugh. The last question the chick asks is “so…why do people go nuts over Robert Pattinson…He’s not really Edward.”

    You crazy lady! That’s why we love him! This little webisode is brought to you by the people at “Common Sense.” They need a new name.

    • lovemesomecullens

      “Abstinance… (giggle) I guess parents all will want to advocate that”


    • Kelly

      “What is it about Robert Pattinson?…” UH .. Have you seen him? Helloooooooo!

    • MidnightSin

      Geez..I just have to say..this pic of Robward scares the crap out of me…don’t get me wrong…I LOVE IT…it’s just that I am in the middle of scrolling down and POP there he is in all his glory….!!!

  • Pinky

    Great post!

    I was one of the late comers (that’s what she said) that saw the movie prior to reading the book. I saw a snippet on E! and thought Robert Pattinson was odd and geeky looking, but I was intrigued by the story line.

    Of course, I warmed to Rob, but the feeling of shame I had that day in the theater watching that shambles of a movie, haunts me to this day. The adult side of me cringed, but the preteen book nerd in me with the jheri curl, braces and hellacious hay fever, quivered at the thought of her own mysterious, bad boy finding her and loving her to the point of insanity. Rob’s great, but it could have been anyone. The story captured my heart.

  • Good God I am a megaBITCH!
    I feel bad now. Oh well…. Hate me if you want, but I couldn’t stand all the “chagrin” “irrevocably” among other repeated words. However, like everyone else I became a Twi addict while reading them and couldn’t put them down. I also think Steph Meyer’s creativity is to be commended. In New Moon, the blank pages of the book that show Bella’s despair and lifelessness are astoundingly magnificent. Anyhow, for the most part my comments had to deal with Catty Hardwicke’s utter FAIL! She was more interested in the back ground scenery then in the dialog, blocking and acting in the movie. However, she did put Rpattz in his role. So I have to have some place for her in my heart….although, truth be told, it was Kstew that picked him, so eff Catty the Cougar.

    • obird

      I <3 your comments long time.

    • i changed “fucking” to “f*cking” so that you’d sound less bitchy. you’re welcome

      • That is fucking awesome. Thank you.

        • Proselyte3


    • lovemesomecullens

      I definately agree with all the repeat words. Even some of the repeat scenes… I mean really, who (even if you are involved with vampires and werewolves) has THAT much drama? Its a wonder someone in that town didnt call CPS on charlie. But, I say thank goodness someone brought us a much needed pop culture phenomonen. I was due something to obsess over!

  • OC

    Nice post.

    However, it really bothers me when I hear people saying Kristen was awful in the film. I only seen the film because of her, I’d never heard of Twilight before, and while I even think its not her greatest performance I do think next to Rob’s performance she looks like an Oscar winner.
    Starting with the accent and the terrible facial expressions I hated him in the film.
    I hope they have both stepped it up a bit in New Moon.

    That was in reply to someone elses view I think and not yours.

  • Calliope

    IF EFFRON WAS EDWARD THIS WOULDA BEEN A WHOLE DIFFERENT BALLGAME… and not the kind that ends with fans gaily rushing the field after a come from behind, unexpected win… no, no… this woulda been the kinda ballgame that ended with fans tossing stale cups of beer, ketchup packets and all sortsa ballpark nastiness on the pitcher, catcher AND first baseman for ruining the easiest of plays.

    le sigh. does that make sense? anyways, as UC, and most of you know, i have a long running battle in my head when it comes to most things twilight (the book and the movie) and i think it’s because most of us (i won’t pretend to believe ALL of you are sane… mostly bc i’ve met some of you) are logical, thinking people. And the book and movie, at times, go against all things logical for people like us…. loving the books to the extent i do… isn’t logical because there are many, many flaws. loving the movie to the extend that i do, doesn’t make sense, because there are MANY MANY MANY MANY flaws. But, nevertheless, i do. and when i think on it, which i’ve done more than i care to admit, i can only come to one conclusion:

    when we strip twiight down to its core, when we remove the base of all things twilight… there is a simple idea that exists; an idea that no one – no matter what happiness or pain they’ve seen in life, no matter what they’ve lived through, no matter how life has shaped them and what path it’s led them down, no matter what dreams they’ve achieved and what dreams they’ve let fly away, and no matter how many times they’ve loved and succeeded or how many times they’ve loved and collapsed – can deny they seek.

    and that idea is TRUST.

    we want to trust that tomorrow will be a better day. we want to trust that those we love, love in return. we want to trust that the dreams we dreams and the hopes we hope are somehow attainable. we want to trust that we are the person we know we are, or that we will be the person we know we can be, or that we still are the person we know we once were… we want to trust. Because TRUST…. trust is the idea that someday – perhaps not today, but someday – and somehow – though we have no freakin clue how – it will be okay.

    Trust is a hard thing to give, a hard thing to believe in, and a hard thing to accept. But when we do… when we TRUST… we find a peace and a happiness we never knew we were capable of. Trust is love and faith and pure. Trust is the antithesis of logic and reason and doubt. Trust should be simple. it should be easy. but life hardens us to it.

    Bella is the zion of trust. she trust without limit. and not just edward, but those around her and the world around her. she trusts when no one else would and eventually she finds happiness in that trust. she finds family in that trust. she finds love in that trust. she finds serenity in that trust. she finds everything we know we want, in trust. Bella can trust. simply. easily. effortlessly. completely. and i think we love twilight because we see what that trust could give us. and, be honest, who doesn’t want that.

    • Calliope

      dear Moon and UC, sorry i write novels on your blog. forgive me?

      • yes

      • MidnightSin

        Me too…sorry…..I have no life apart from Twilight!!!

    • I <3 you and TRUST in Calli.

      PS Bacon infused vodka…just because

      • Von


        I saw it advertised when I was in Denver a couple weeks ago and almost threw up a little in my mouth. What is next… brocolli infused vodka? brussle sprouts infused vodka? boiled egg infused vodka? The possibilities are endless, and all make me want to gag. As a former barender, may I suggest you infuse your vodka with ICE and sip gently while relaxing on your deck? My personal choice is Jack… 🙂

  • whatever

    I am totally with Heyy Brother. I can’t picture another Edward in my head, except Rob. Yes, the movie was a POS, as Moon had put so well, yet me and my girlfriends keep watching it over and over again because we get to laugh at all the wrong places, we get to make fun of Kristen and Rob’s bad acting, Rob’s bad make-up..etc…
    However, we also watch it for Rob/Edward, whichever,take your pick. We love Rob’s chemistry with KStew, we love it when he says “I just want to try one thing” and we stop breathing at that moment..We swooned over him even more during the prom scenes…But at the end of the day, Twilight is a bad movie.
    If you ask me if we watched it for Rob/Edward, I’ll have to say that was 60% of the reason. The story itself was so intriguing that I can’t help but like the film. People think I am crazy to like Twilight (both the novels and the film) but hey, THAT’S normal, right?

  • whatever

    Oh yes, I forgot to add this, Cedric was my key too. I fell in live with Rob the moment he jumped out of the tree to travel to the Quidditch Tournament by a Portkey…(jeez I am forgetting all the Harry Potter phrases..)Also when he suggested DanRad to take a bath at the prefect’s bathroom..even with that bad haircut and ugly yellow Hufflepuff robes, he looked amazing..


    • Katie S

      If Effron was Edward I would be on a Twihaters blog right now. Or I would have a normal life outside of Twilight. Either way, it would be lame.

  • Jaybird

    I don’t know how “deep” I can get here, but I will just have you know that when something can make me say “Buttcrack Santa”, “Animal Attack” and “Sparkle Peen” in polite conversation, then I love it!!

    I guess I love the whole Twilight experience! LTT is included in the Love! Irrationally, Irrevolcably, and all that bull-poo poo!

  • oopsilovetwi

    I read the books right before Twilight came out, so naturally Robward was always my Edward, much like Heyyy brother. But I agree, I would still be swooning if it was any attractive guy that could deliver lines decently. Zac Effron does NOT equal attractive guy in the least.

  • expat

    fascinating post—saw the film with friends on Valentine’s Day (kismet) & hadn’t the foggiest what it was—so yesterday celebrated my 6-mo. Robsession (UC & Moon understand math & anniversaries like me as a fairly precise science, so no quibbles)—

    came out of the theater & was totally transfixed by the intensity of Robert Pattinson—never was a ‘fan girl’, found it easier to get off on a gifted tenor than a hollywood beau & there i was, reacting emotionally (& blush, sexually) in a way i never had—

    ordered the series the next day & read the books non-stop—they are plot-driven wonders & some of the worst-written English prose i’ve ever seen—nuf said—

    as an actor Rob is surely once in generation with a charisma like nothing i’ve ever seen onscreen—the camera loves him & in his stills the beautiful bastard shows just what he can do with a camera—

    if the blogs were celebrating s.o. else as Edward i’d be leading my normal serene life as before & not writing Letters to Twilight—-sorry UC & Moon, but it’s a case of the junkie speaking her truth—<3

  • The character of Edward Cullen makes the whole series for me, be it the books or the movies. Twilight would not be the phenomenon that it is without Edward Cullen. Robert playing Edward is just a bonus, although I think that I would admire any actor who plays an authentic Edward.

    • Maira

      Totally agree.

  • MidnightSin

    I admit to so carrying on this a.m…but once again. another.sleepless night….so off the deep end I once again dove..and yes the pool was empty…my apologies to UC and all….
    Now for the real “me” (4 coffee’s later)….I adore Rob/Edward/Rob…why else would I “sleep” with him EVERY NIGHT…those eyes.. that smile …please….why else would I WANT to remember every aspect of this movie…the good, the bad, the embarrassing??? I mean if I were to do the math and I am not going to….since I was given the DVD the day it came out until now…I have watched Twilight at least once a day and on most more than once (except for when I thought I broke it OMG) but didn’t ..Thank God…Why ??because I adore all that is Twilight/Edward/Twilight….and all that it means to me…and yes…it is my ONE bright spot in this”new” life of mine…watching Twilight every time is like experiencing it for this first time over and over….eat your hearts out ladies…. <3

  • MariaCecilia

    For me it was the movie that brough it all on, like a fever in my system. I’d read Twilight, was intrigued by the story, but was irritated as hell at the partly crappy writing and couldn’t be bothered to read the rest.

    But after seeing the movie I was sold, and read the rest of the books as fast as I could lay my hands on them! Why? Because I loved the story, and the movie brought it to life for me, made it flesh and blood so that I could overlook everything, including the crappy parts in the script. (I don’t think Catherine did a bad job, okay, disregarding some of the changes she made, which were – well, let’s say unfortunate. I loved the beautiful blue-grey, dripping cold, gothic scenery.)

    Rob is a wonderful Edward – and without a wonderful Edward this would have been a disaster of a movie – so I think it is largely thanks to him that it works. But I have seen Rob in other movies, and I don’t love them, I love HIM in them.

    So the answer is: Twilight + Robward = massive love. One can’t live without the other. Kellan and Jackson – eat your little hearts out!

  • I will fully admit that yes, the movie was atrocious. Sure. But that is looking at it as a serious romantic drama. Just change the genre to comedy, and you are all set! And Rob being the star of this comedy is what keeps me coming back for more. No shame!

  • Poisonvamp

    I first saw the movie when it was released on DVD earlier this year. I have to say I thought it royally sucked donkey balls. The movie felt rushed, didn’t quite explain things. But out of all the actors, a certain one did strike my fancy (Jackson). So after talking to people on how badly the movie was written and directed, (come on, spirdermonkey, WTF?!?). So I thought, I’m Laid off, maybe I should read the books. So I borrowed Twilight and New Moon from my Bestfriend’s Little step-sister. I read both of them in under 15 hours. I had to wait a whole week before I could get Eclipse from her. Which I read in like 6 hours. Thus causing my now infatuation with Jasper Hale, sorry off the point.
    Well anyways, after reading Twilight I rewatched (like 5 times, not to mention the baseball scene on an endless loop) the movie, and yes said movie still sucked but It was much more bearable after reading the book. I’m Just hoping that something was learned from the cougar’s mistakes, and that New Moon and Eclipse are better written. Here’s to keeping my fingers crossed.

  • faerierebel

    You know, in the past several years, there’s something that has disappointed me to the point of pain. Seriously BAD book to movie-renditions.
    Stardust and The Spiderwick Chronicles, not to mention The Golden Compass.
    I’m still waiting for a refund on seeing Stardust. I can’t believe I actually PAYED to see that piece of ****.

    So when I first heard they were going to turn Twilight into a movie, my thought was, “Oh great. Butcher that as well, why dontcha?!”
    I was so worried about the movie version. But then I sat there at the premiere (which, by the way, was two months later THAN everywhere ELSE!) and was nothing but positively surprised. Sure, they had made cuts, but nothing pivotal. The plot hadn’t been changed, characters hadn’t been dropped (like the elves in The Spiderwick Chronicles. THEY HAD SOMETHING TO SAY, you know!), and seriously the whole audience *GASPED* when Carlise made his entrance.

    Was the movie THAT good? Nah, but I’d like to point out that to me, NOTHING beats the books. And also, I don’t think the movie-Edward opens up unless you’ve read Midnight Sun.

    After reading/listening to so many Chris Weitz-interviews, I am more than happy about New Moon. New Moon is my favourite Twilight Saga-book and I can’t wait to see it, because it’s going to kick some major league ass.

  • to be honest, I dont think anyone elso could have played Edward like Rob did.

    Call is good acting, but he captured some of the essence of Edward.


    I WISH the cougar would have told Edward to be bolder! For example, the only time I truely and completely saw Edward in REALITY was when Edward arrives at school with Bella and he has his sunglasses on. What he says, how he acts, THATS EDWARD!!!!

    In the book he has CONFIDENCE. He takes control! Hes just THE MAN! Could be just me that thought so, but thats my true vision of Edward.

  • fairytalefrog

    Well I saw the film before I read the books, and honestly quite liked it. OK I didn’t think it was the most amazing thing I’d ever read and there were some bits that didn’t make sense, like why is Jasper constipated and woah! that was quite an over-reaction in that hospital bed, you’ve known him what? a week! Not to mention my hysterical laughter when I watched the trailer to see what I was being dragged along to – say it – OUT LOUD! *girly breath* Vampire – CHEESY!!!

    But I enjoyed it (compared to my two friends who’d read the books and didn’t like the movie) and it made me write a mental note to read the books. When I finally got round to reading them they swept me up in that fantasy realm we all love to go to and I was hooked. Then when rewatching the film, I could see the weird things, more of the annoyances … and this agrees with my theory that you can never fully enjoy a movie if you read the book first).

    But get this, book Edward annoys me a bit … he’s a bit whiny, whingy …. a bit limp … did I just say limp? You know what I mean! Ok maybe I’m alone on this one, but movie Edward stands out more to me – more tortured, more dangerous, more fashion sense (why so beige?) and of course movie Edward is hot! So yeah, not having him in my head as I read the books would likely have made quite a difference to me:)

  • snapdragon

    I’ve been a big time lurker here for awhile and I feel I must chime in. There are always the dissenters right? 
    Would I love Twilight as much if there wasn’t an Edward? Well, no. He is after all one of the main characters but I am one of the those (weirdos to those Edward fans) that really fell in love with the series because of the moment I got sucked into the series without hardly any control of my own and that was when Jacob’s character became much more prominent.

    Call me team Jacob and brush me aside as many people do but I enjoyed the series so much more when his character shook up the foundation of this made up world in Forks. Perhaps I wasn’t expecting it at all. I hadn’t known about the teams when I delved into it on my own. Perhaps this sudden switch slapped me out of the teenage, angsty feelings I had left long ago in my real life. Jacob tuned the story back into my adult self, and as a result made me realize that this series could be perceived deeper and more complex than I originally believed. So again no I wouldn’t love the series if Edward wasn’t in the story…there really wouldn’t be a story now would there? But he also made me love Jacob and I’m forever grateful he dumped Bella’s silly arse that day in the woods 😛

  • unlikelyfangirl

    I love Twilosphophy posts! I read the books over a year ago, completely unaware of the hype and absolutely loved the 1st person, stream of conscious thought processes of Bella. Sure, Edward is great but, to me, it is Bella’s story and her falling in love and reconciling herself with this fantastical world in all the glory and awkwardness of a 17 year old brain. Edward is really only amazing because Bella sees him that way.

    So, unlike my obsession with the New Moon movie–I had only seen one preview of the Twilight movie before taking my husband to see it last November. I didn’t really have a lot of expectations–good or bad–just curiosity as to how the film could capture the magic of this “internal monologue” of the books that I had enjoyed so much. My initial thought was that it was just cool to have the characters come to life. I thought Bella was nicely “underplayed” even though she didn’t completely match the book. I didn’t really think Edward was all that great *gasp*–I thought his voice was off, his facial expressions strange, and his behavior un-Edwardly at times. I didn’t fall for Rob until I U-tubed his interviews and stumbled upon LTR. He is impossible to resist after 2.5 interview videos and now I pretty much find everything commented about him entertaining.

    The movie could have been so much better but I do think it captured that “magic” in a few moments (the piano scene, prom, part of the Port Angeles dinner) so I love it for that and cringe through the bad. I LOVE it for all of the hilarious LTT posts and comments that have been inspired by it. So no, I don’t love Twilight for Rob. I love Rob because he is. I love Twilight because it awakened some dormant “fangirl” in me and reminded me that there is nothing better than laughing–even at yourself. I am convinced that my obsession is some sort of perfect storm of the book series, movie characters, and snarky LTT posts and commenters. I pity those who “don’t get it”.

    • snapdragon

      I suppose I need to add…that I do love Rob. I am not smitten, but I think he’d be awesome to hang around with. Knowing what I’ve seen of him from interviews and random info you get about him he probably thinks Edward is a tool…lol. But no, I don’t think it’s made me anymore excited about the movies, nor has it made me love the books more, it’s just nice knowing that a cool guy like him is a part of the whole phenomena.

  • Gillian

    Yes i would still love it…i am not an Obsessed Rob Patz fan…..i do NOT see this obsession ye all have with him??
    yes he fits the role Very well ill Give Him that but he Irritates me so much when he just out his scruffy look is just plain wRong:O..But then what else cld he look like i cant imagine him looking like Zac Effron or any of them youno…so i spose ill Just have to get on with it while he is in the lime-light for now….it wont be long until ppl get over this obsseion…i think ppl think rob is Edward in real life and go up to him and be like Bite me…Like WTF?…Well i am Team CULLEN..love the Vampiers there soo much betta to read then the warewolfs like…But :o…Jacob what a change hemade for new moon…SwisshhSwooo man….the one thing i dnt get is why they Killed off James(CAM GIGANATE) he was just Lush like…aww well!!haha…..soo am ya Twilight wld be the exact same with out Rob..!!Kristen Stwert on the other hand is another story she irrates me so much the way she acts ahh!!!
    Byee peps!!
    Team JAMES!!!

  • i fell in love with the book not knowing who would be playing the characters. so yes i would still love twilight if it were’nt played by rob. because of the book i wanted to watch twilight and im not ganna say rob didnt play the part right cuz he did do a good job on bringing the character to life.

  • Maira

    To be honest, I didn’t like early Robert to play Edward, I started reading the books after Twilight premiere therefore already knew the players but not the story. Robert is not how I imagined Edward, to me is not perfect enough. Now I can’t imagine another Edward because I saw the movie and automatically connect with Rob. Twilight was pathetic, Kristen performance disappointed me, Bella is more beautiful than Rosalie, but I love both the story itself that I can’t stop loving the movies, is to see everything I imagined while reading books on the film.
    Sory my english, I’m from Argentina!

  • Ishla

    I read all the books before the movie and knew that it could not possibly captivate me as the books had done, so was pleasantly surprised that the movie was enjoyable. Admittedly when Rob firrst walked into the cafe. I turned to my neighbour and said ooooooh as in oooooh yuck, but as the film went on I was a total fan. He at times looked amazingly beautiful and at other times inhuman and quite hideous. I have to admit that Kristians stumbling lines in the hosp is one of my fav scenes. (please don’t stone me) I think she is beautiful and well cast. xx Fav film when I have piles of ironing

    • Ishla

      I hate the meadow scene in the film. anyone else?

      • Maira

        I do. It was an important scene and completely ruined.
        Seeing it did not feel the same as reading it, just like the piano scene.

  • mingy maguiness

    I love the book saga, and of course my favorite character is Edward, and Rob does fit his description, and he is totally HOT. The movie is not a great movie I really only like it because I love the books, But I think I would like it the same if it was anyone else playing him, honestly. Even though I am very grateful that it is Rob playing him because he is gorgeous!!!

  • LW

    I only read the books because my BFF forced me too and the movie had already been out for some time. I read all the books before I watched the movie and it was a good things too! My brain was able to fill in what the movie missed and for me that was enough. I do agree it’s much better after a few drinks and love ragging on it with girlfriends. It makes since that Summit didn’t think the movie deserved a big budget the first time since they obviously assumed that only teenagers read the books. As the public we made the demand for New Moon more profitable in the eyes of Summit and they gave us a better sequel. I like the way Robert Pattinson looks in real life as opposed to the version of Edward that Catherine Hardwick portrayed. He is a fantastic looking man and made that movie enough for me. I don’t get all the bad mouthing about Kristen or wait maybe I do but I do like her and I think she did what the director expected of her. I see a difference in New Moon and I think she’ll garner some support form more fans after this movie.

  • Just Saying

    I am on Team UC – great discussion topic – thanks for posting.

  • Freya

    The first time I saw the movie, I updated my Facebook status from my car with the words “I want to go home.” I’m originally from the Portland area, and I have to give some credit to Cat H for picking some beautiful locales that highlighted the natural beauty of the PNW.

    Aside from Rob? Well, there’s still a few draws. I’ve been Rathboned, iykwim… Also Peter. And sometimes Kellan.

    So I guess you could say I like the movie for the scenery…

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