Breaking Dawn, can we just not and say we did?

Dear Breaking Dawn producers-

Can we just NOT and say we did? Or actually we don’t even have to say we did. Let’s just use some sort of flashback or dream sequence and call it a day. What am I asking that we avoid you ask? The birth scene… yup, I’m just gonna ask that we don’t. I was just reading an interview with Wyck Godrey, producer of the Twilight franchise where he explained that he wife was an OB-GYN and that they may need her on set to make sure Edward is making the proper incision for an “oral c-section.” SERIOUSLY? Let’s just not. Please? As if I didn’t already take enough flack for the scene in the book and various other Twilight shenanigans that need explaining to civilians. I just can’t shoulder this one. I’m sorry. I’ll explain sparkling vampires, hot and cold body temperatures, celebacy, mind reading, vegetarian vampirism, bad wigs and anything else about Twilight but I just can’t handle explaining why Edward is tearing into Bella’s womb on a 60 foot screen at midnight.

Can I offer some suggestions or even ideas for how to get around this one so you’ll have more time to focus on how you’re going to make Jacob imprinting on Renesmee NOT weird for the outsider? Oh and nice job side stepping the Jared and Claire imprinting business in Eclipse. Don’t think we didn’t notice!

But anyhooozle, maybe since the story is told from Bella’s perspective we can go inside her mind again a la Twilight the movie after she was biten by James and Edward sucked the venom out. We saw a very abstract, beautiful montage of scenes from the movie, future, past, present, scenery, etc all set to music (sung by Robert Pattinson… oh heeeeey!). Just a thought and then we could see Renesemee lifted up Simba on Pride Rock style and CUT TO BLACK, end of Breaking Dawn Part 1, meet us back here in 2012 same Cullen time, same Cullen channel. OR we see Jacob headed down to kill off the demon spawn yet he’s oddly drawn to her and he doesn’t know why and then BOOM CUT. Multiple options people! I’ve thought about this a lot. Clearly.

Then of course, because I love the idea, let’s make part 2 of Breaking Dawn in 3-D because really it’s just a cool idea. Think about how Stephenie Meyer describes Bella’s first moments as a vampire. She sees light reflection off particles in the air, everyone looks so much different and more beautiful… imagine when she takes that first leap off a rock and over the creek behind the Cullen house IN 3D! It’s like we can experience Bella’s new vampirism right along with her. Sure 3D the cool thing to do in movies now and it can be hella lame but it works right along with the story line. LET’S DO THIS!

True luv

And theeeeeennn there’s that whole Jacob imprinting on Renesmee business. We all know you’re gonna get slaughtered in the critiques for it, we know there’s gonna be jokes EVERYWHERE about it. Let’s just take this next few years to ACCEPT IT NOW. But can I suggest a few things? The way Stephenie describes their imprinting is just so interesting and beautiful…

“Everything inside me came undone as I stared at the tiny porcelain face of the half-vampire, half-human baby. All the lines that held me to my life were sliced apart in swift cuts, like clipping the strings to a bunch of balloons. Everything that made me who I was – my love for the dead girl upstairs, my love for my father, my loyalty to my new pack, the love for my other brothers, my hatred for my enemies, my home, my name, my self – disconnected from me in that second – snip, snip, snip – and floated up into space. I was not left drifting. A new string held me where I was.

The gravity of the earth no longer tied me to the place where I stood. It was the baby girl in the blond vampire’s arms that held me here now. Renesmee.”

Jacob Black, Breaking Dawn, Chapter 18, p.360

Yup, pretty much how I see it

So can we just preserve what little personal pride we’re going to have left when all the vultures and civilians start making this the joke on all the late night chat shows and SNL. Can we do another Bella montage type idea but instead with Jacob where as he’s imprinting we see an OLDER, GROWN UP version of Renesmee and not a kid strapped to Taylor Lautner in a Baby Bjorn! PLEASE! Please.

So producers can we just take these ideas or some other phenominal one you have that does NOT include an on call OB-GYN for authenticity’s sake in the “oral cesarian” and run with them? Please? Cause I really don’t want to have to say you did, when you didn’t have to.

The Lock-NESS-blog-monster, 
Themoonisdown

What ideas do you have to make some of the Breaking Dawn moment a little more palletable for the movie go-ing audience. What can we do for the people who just DON’T KNOW?
 
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  • eloise

    I totally agree! Personally i am already trying to psych myself up to even stay in the theater after the fade to black on the honeymoon. Ignorance is bliss.

    • eloise

      My first thumbs down!

  • Ish

    Excellent Ideas. Although I have never really been grossed out by the whole jacob imprinting thing. Except maybe one day Bella having to explain how she snogged her daughters lover years ago….. weird. Anyway great post am still smiling. They can do a fade to black on birth scene but woe to summit if there is fade to sad on esme island!!!!

  • Ann Marie

    Maybe something like this? (Warning, it’s totally not finished)
    http://www.twilighted.net/viewstory.php?sid=6303

  • amynkansas

    I, too, am not interested in seeing Edward with blood all over his face, looking like something out of FF that stepped over the aunt flo line. I would take the NM Alice Future vision of dorky Bella and Edward Frollic over that any day.

  • Sj

    I am overly excited for oral c-section and I bet Stewie is already practising her stuck-pig screaming again (didn’t quite nail it in NM). And it will be so outrageously horrific and weird that the Jacob/Renes imprint will not only seem normal but a welcome relief! Maybe they can throw in some Alien ref. for light relief.

    • The Old One

      Yes, why does the image from “Alien” always pop up, as it were, when I try to imagine the birth scene? Maybe it’s the teeth.

  • http://www.twitter.com/ScienceGeek91 Rob’s slow mo’ strut

    Since I’m a twilight nerd, before I finish reading the post, I needed to correct this: Quil (a.k.a the nerdy wolf) imprinted on two-year-old Claire. Jared imprints on his classmate, Kim.

    • TeamJacobEdward

      Hahaha! Glad I wasn’t the only one who caught that. I feel less geekish now. :) thanks

    • TeamSeth

      “You caught that, huh?”

  • http://www.twitter.com/mylifeontwi mylifeontwi

    Gob’s not on board.

  • Not Quite Normal

    I have to agree that if EVER a fade-to-black was appropriate, it would be on NOT watching a OBGYN-approved oral c-section. I had to watch a child birth video for a college course and I am still traumatized by it. I really don’t want my visions of Edward to include that.

    Moon, any chance you can replace Mel-Mel as the screenwriter? I think we’d all like BD better if you or UC took a stab at the screenplay…or I’d be willing to give it a shot and use your ideas–I’d credit you, I promise! :)

  • purplescool

    So they’re going to fade to black with the Isle Esme stuff, but we have to suffer through the c-section by vampire teeth – UGH! NO ONE wants to see what happens at a birth – any kind of birth – NO ONE. Not even when it’s your own kid (and I have two). There’s a reason they drape that cloth over you – b/c NO ONE wants to see what’s going on. I totally vote for mental montage of Bella’s life up to that point or something of that sort. I mean really Wyck, do you not know what the Twilight audience wants at this point? Here’s a hint – ISLE ESME – c-section, not so much.

    • Bea

      Yup. One can argue that standard childbirth is beautiful, but c-section is just not. Really don’t want to see it.
      Been missing y’all while on vacation! Catching up this morning and bracing for another LTT-less week.

  • Stacey

    Breaking Dawn is perhaps going to be a train wreck. And when I say train wreck, I mean awesome. I decided when I read the book to just embrace the weird and go with it. There might not be a way to not sugarcoat the more “interesting” elements of the book. It’s not going to matter if there’s an Oscar winner directing, it’s still going to be ripped apart by the critics. Of course, the cesarean should appease the ones that complained that the Twilight series didn’t have enough horror in them. That scene enough has enough “horror” for all four books.

    I also feel that we are also ignoring the even bigger part that people who don’t read the books are going to go nuts over, and not in a good way, is Bella’s bruises. People who “hate” Twilight are going to rip that scene to shreds. Edward is already called overbearing and stalker, so just imagine what those who hate Twilight are going to say about that. Summit is going to have to do some damage control before that one. I, myself, am excited about the feathers, but it is going to cause some controversy.

    • http://www.twitter.com/ScienceGeek91 Rob’s slow mo’ strut

      I just posted my comment and saw yours. I pointed out the same things, yet you made a lot more sense than I did..Oh well, I’ll blame it on the grogginess from my afternoon nap.

    • chochang

      and while we’re on the subject of totally creepy scenes in breaking down, let’s not forget that part in the book where bella BARFS all that blood. urgh. i was all queasy when i read that! seriously. so dear mr. wyck, DON’T include the barfing scene. i can take bella drinking blood out of a straw. just not that part.

      • chochang

        obviously, i meant DAWN. #typingfail

  • http://www.twitter.com/ScienceGeek91 Rob’s slow mo’ strut

    Honestly, I am reaallllyyyy not looking forward to Breaking Dawn part II. I feel like I was done reading Twilight as soon as the Isle Esme honeymoon ended, i.e right after Edward rips the black lace in the blue room. (Saucy).

    Needless, to say BD was my LEAST favourite book and the whole c-section and Jacob/Renes-what’shername thing didn’t help things either. I’ll never forget the horrified look on my mom’s face as I explained to her: “Yes, since the inner skin of her womb becomes super strong, he had to bite his way through to get to the child. Oh and Jacob totally falls for the baby but it’s not something creepy…”

    Riiigght…

    When I was reading all the Eclipse reviews by the critics, I came across how they criticized Edward’s stalker-like tendencies, Jacob’s mouth-rape(their words, not mine) and it got me REALLY scared for BD. I mean if they’re this harsh on such tame matters, they would probably fursplode during BD part II. Scratch that, they’ll bring up issues on domestic violence when they see Bella waking up covered in bruises.

    I am scared.

    • Stacey

      Exactly what I was thinking!

    • Stacey

      There is going to be a whole lot of domestic violence articles written after this movie, I have no doubt. Maybe, Summit needs to add a PSA before the movie. Rob and Kristen can sit on some stools and talk to the kids about how domestic violence is bad, but what Edward did was a vampire accident (which it was, but still going to get ripped apart). It will be like a very special episode of Degrassi. Not that i’m saying that domestic violence shouldn’t be talked about, but it really doesn’t have…let me get a shovel cause I keep digging this hole deeper.

      • http://www.twitter.com/ScienceGeek91 Rob’s slow mo’ strut

        I can soo imagine Rob trying to be all serious while doing the PSA and cracking up at totally inappropriate moments. Stewy will have to turn the full force of her b*tchface on him then…hahahaha

      • TeamJacobEdward

        Yep. Domestic violence and pedophilia. People are going to rip this open like Edward tears apart Bella’s stomach in the birth scene. I can hear the out cries now, “what kind of sick things are we teaching our children is okay?!” We think we have to defend Twi now…

        Good luck to us all on that.

      • OutOfF(l)avour

        ‘a vampire accident’…..OMG that cracked me up!!

    • operarose

      Can I just play devil’s advocate here for a second and say that I don’t think the bruises that Bella woke up with were that big of a deal until I started reading comments about them online?

      Obviously I think domestic violence is horrible and inexcusable and serious, etc. I also think it’s a poor idea to willingly do something to a woman (or another human being for that matter) that is likely to cause them harm. i.e., (TMI) I don’t “get” freaky violent dominatrix type stuff some people are into. That doesn’t sound fun to me.

      But in the context of BD, Bella woke up a little bruised because it was an innocent mistake with absolutely, genuinely no ill intent behind it. Edward felt a great deal of remorse after he saw the bruises on Bella in the morning and as you recall refused to pretty much touch her after that. He also never wanted to “do the deed” with her in the first place; it was her decision to take the risk. He did everything he could to protect her and saw that it wasn’t enough so really stopped. Accidents – true accidents – do happen and I see this as being no different. Therefore taking that pov I think it can be presented somewhat tastefully in the movie.

      To me, the bruises are important in the story for 2 reasons. One, I don’t think Meyer could have realistically had Edward have sex with Bella with everything going absolutely perfectly. Obviously if he’d killed her the story would end on a bad note. I think this was a compromise.

      Secondly, it reaffirms that Bella could not be married to him and stay human forever. They simply couldn’t go on in a happy marriage indefinitely in that state. Even if she hadn’t gotten pregnant, they would have had to turn her.

      • Stacey

        Oh I agree with you. Unfortunately, it all comes back to the people who hate the books, hate the movies and probably never read or watched either having a say. Those are the people who are going to make a BIG fuss. When I read about Edward sneaking into Bella’s room I didn’t think it was a big deal (maybe kind of funny), I still don’t, but other people online go crazy about it being antifeminist, etc. When you get into the idea of bruises, I have a feeling that the aren’t going to be going back and referencing the books to see the real reasons behind it. They are going to stick by the uninformed talking points.

        • operarose

          Yeah, I definitely see what you’re saying!

          I guess we’re just going to have to brace ourselves to ignore it…
          this sort of thing happens with anything that gets massively popular.

          As much as I enjoyed seeing the movies (especially Eclipse) come to life sometimes I wish that the Twilight world remained as it was when I read it and it stayed inside my mind! It made sense to me in my head. People love to ruin all the fun. (And by people I mean both “haters” and crazy 2nd hand embarrassing fans alike.)

      • TeamJacobEdward

        I agree too. The bruises in Isle Esme didn’t bother me one but reading BD. It made sense to me completely. He was a super strong vamp, she was a super fragile human.

        And even Jacob imprinting on Renesmee didn’t bother me much knowing it wasn’t like THAT.

        But like Stacy said, it’s how the non-fans / non-readers / haters will see it all. They’ll turn it into domestic violence and sick baby love. We know it’s not like that even if it bothered us or make fun of it, we still know it’s not. But try to convince the outsiders…. good luck because we all know they won’t listen.

        • snowwhitedrifted

          I can’t believe critics get into serious discussions about domestic violence, imprinting, Edward the stalker, non-feminist tendencies, etc.

          Are they seriously placing a moral code on vampires and werewolves? Mythological creatures do not follow the 10 commandments or the constitution. Seriously, critics, it’s fantasy they don’t have to behave like fine upstanding humans. THEY’RE NOT HUMAN.

          • Stacey

            Those silly critics, both professional and not, don’t care that it’s a FANTASY. With alot of people if it’s not Casablanca, then it’s crap. People just can’t like something, because it’s fun. Of course, my husband wants to see Jonah Hex, because Megan Fox is in it and I used the excuse that we can’t see it due to the bad reviews. I just might be a hypocrite. Argh.

          • http://www.twitter.com/ScienceGeek91 Rob’s slow mo’ strut

            “Mythological creatures do not follow the 10 commandments or the constitution.”

            THIS!

            Completely off-topic (well, not really, since it’s all twi) but that reminds me of Stephenie’s post on the BD topic of male vampires and their sperms. When asked about how vampires can ejaculate when they can’t even sweat, Stephenie didn’t go into all the biological details but simply said they are vampires. They’re not supposed to exist in the first place. If you chose to believe in them long enough to keep reading the books, you might as well believe in their abilities to father a child.

            Or something like that. I don’t remember her exact words.

          • Stacey

            Why did I get thumbsdown this time? I wasn’t saying that Breaking Dawn was going to bad. I just meant that no matter what goes onto the screen some critics won’t like it. Oh never mind. I give up…

        • Rob’s flaming dashboard

          Agree with TeamJacobEdward that the bruising scene in Breaking Dawn did not bother me. 1: we know from previous books Bella bruises easily and without noticing, (like my relatives and I do) 2: I may or may not have once had awesome sex that resulted in a huge bruise that was not noticed for several hours and that I was sorry to see eventually fade because it was a reminder of a fabulous night. TMI?

          • TeamSeth

            I <3 this blog.

          • TeamJacobEdward

            I may or may not sooo know what you mean….

        • purplescool

          I agree with you. Even though the story is fairytale-fictional and involves vampires and werewolves for cryin’ out loud, Summit is going to have to do damage control on the front end before the movie comes out to deal with all these issues or everyone will be all over them from here to kingdom-come. I didn’t think twice about violence on Isle Esme or the “creepiness” of Jacob imprinting on a baby when I read the books, because I understood the intentions/motivations behind the actions, but it’ll be hard to illustrate those intentions in the movie – especially to people who haven’t read the books.

      • same

        Well, Edward didn’t do everything he could have to protect Bella…hello condoms! Although the whole demon baby ripped from the womb via teeth-section is probably a decent illustration of the importance of safe sex.
        I really don’t think too many haters will go down the domestic violence route because the whole post-wedlock consummation/night of passion romance element is guaranteed to be swooned over. I do think we will see a sh*t storm of stuff on how BD & the whole series is anti-feminist. And that’s’always a joy. Regardless, fans will have to defend themselves.

        • operarose

          Yeahhhhh see that’s what I’m trying to avoid. I don’t want to defend myself for liking something. Yes Breaking Dawn sounds crazy to those with less -erm, “refined”- tastes. Demon baby is conceived after wild bruise-inducing sex, dad bites through mommy’s womb to birth it… wolfboy ex-paramour of mommy imprints on said baby…etc. But you know what? It’s fiction. There’s a creepy painting in the cafe I’m working at today that is listed at $800 to buy. It’s a relatively basic pencil drawing of a skeleton angel in an ugly carved wood frame. Is it creepy? Yes. Is it tasteful? Maybe not. Is it beautiful? No. Is someone going to like it and pay $800 for it? Maybe. Will I judge them? Maybe, although probably not since I don’t really judge on people’s taste in art/music/literature/etc. Should they feel required to defend themselves to me if I did judge them? No.

          The same should hold true if I want to like Renesmee, Jacob, Edward, Bella, etc.

          Dear world,
          I love Jacob, Edward, Bella, and Renesmee. So what if you think they’re anti-feminists, demons, women abusers who are the anti-Christ and, even worse, nearly as creepy as Speidi? I love them. You’re just going to have to deal that there’s a human being out there who likes that kind of thing.
          Love,
          Operarose.

  • Stacey

    It might just be me, but when they sidestepped the imprint in Eclipse, they missed out on what could have been a very funny moment.For instance, at the Tribal Meeting it would have been funny if Bella noticed a three year old sitting on Quil’s lap and she asked Jacob if that was Quil’s little sister or cousin. Then Jake would reply, “Umm…no.”

    Missed comedic opportunity, Rosenberg.

  • http://notanaddikt.blogspot.com Bella_NaA

    I read on twicrackaddict that Wyck Godfrey already indicated that they’ll be doing the birth scene from Bella’s -hopefully very-fuzzy perspective. Whew. I hope we’ll be spared the image of Edward face covered in blood. The funny face he made in Twiligth while sucking the venom out of Bella’s blood was already enough. The imprinting is going to need a lot of ‘splainin’ tho. NO way in hale I’m seeing this movie with non-initiated people.

    • TeamSeth

      Yes, like chochang said, T-rated.

    • Bea

      Yes. Eclipse went well, but my Twi-closet door is staying firmly locked because BD is just too hard to explain if you haven’t read and loved the previous books.

  • natashadushi

    I so want to see a LTT t-shirt with “ NO to oral cesarian” LMAO

  • Rob’s flaming dashboard

    So I have been thinking about this very topic a long time. I had a lot of problems with the book Breaking Dawn and this is a large reason why I am a love-to-hate the Twidom type person. I have a number of opinions about modern childbirth and parenting and strongly disapprove of Stephenie Meyer dumping her pregnancy issues in a romance novel allegedly for teens.

    But my standards have gone out the window! Since viewing Eclipse I have realized it will be worth seeing the BD movies just to rag on them. And the junket will be fantastic!

    quote Stacey: “when I say train wreck, I mean awesome.” Yep, you nailed it. And everybody’s earning enough money that I don’t feel sad or second hand embarrassed for the cast and crew having to tweed seriously discuss this in interviews.

    quote amynkansas :”stepped over the aunt flo line.” Coffee spurt! Lotsa Isle Esme special hugs and feathers: the absolute minimum of chomp section and imprint. Kthanxbai

    • The Old One

      I think the press junket is going to be even more entertaining than the movies! You’re right, they’re going to earn their millions with those uncomfortable interviews, for sure.

  • Unlikelyfangirl

    Breaking Dawn should be fascinating to say the least. Condon has worked with some “interesting” material before so I’m cautiously optimistic about his interpretation. I am even warming up to the idea of 3D for Breaking Dawn II–it could be a very cool fit to the story line.

    I love your reference to “civilians”. So, so true!

    • The Old One

      Since everything in my life now can be traced back to events in the Twi-verse, I’ve started renting all Bill Condon’s old movies for research purposes. Loved, loved, “Gods and Monsters”, and there’s some hilarious spoofs of Frankenstein with Brendan Fraser in it. I’m hoping some of that tongue-in-cheek appears in Breaking Dawn. In fact, why not do the birth scene in black and white, with the cheesy 1930s mad scientist laboratory, and Edward in a lab coat with his eyebrows all wildly bristling, and a maniacal gleam in his eyes as he bares his teeth and leans over Bella, lightning flashing through the windows . . . .

  • TeamJacobEdward

    I have a whole new definition of “oral” now. My mind just gets more and more interesting… Thanks Moon!

    I see BD I ending on a cliffhanger. Edward extracting the baby and trying frantically to save Bella as she lies lifeless on the table. Maybe saying that line from Twilight about how death is peaceful. Or saying something about fighting the blackness. That there was nothing and cut to black.

    And although I’m not particularly looking forward to vampire caesarean (aka; oral c-section), I’m not as concerned about that as I am about the whole Jacob imprinting on baby Renesmee. I feel bad for Taylor… Poor guy will probably never shake the baby lover wrap. Ever.

    • Rob’s flaming dashboard

      quote teamJacobEdward: ” fighting the blackness. That there was nothing and cut to black.”

      OK, there’s no way that will show up in the movie. Remember Stephenie Meyer is one of the producers.

    • http://twitter.com/shleeeigh Shleeeigh

      “I feel bad for Taylor… Poor guy will probably never shake the baby lover wrap. Ever.”

      That’s probably why he’s getting $147593million to make this movie. He deserves every penny!

      • TeamJacobEdward

        Whatever they’re paying Taylor for BD, it is not enough to carry that label.

        • eatmyjorts

          I think one of his saving graces will be that he doesn’t appear to be any form of manwhore in real life – quite the opposite- & so less likely to be someone who ogles ‘underage’ girls….Especially if some of the roles he takes in the meantime have proper grown up romance & nothing to do with werewolves.

          They have to have to have to do a proper explanation where they say clearly that any sexual element of imprinting is at the imprintees request, after they have reached sexual maturity. That’s gotta be, what 6 or 7 yrs old for Rsmeeeeeeeeeeeeee?

          It’s no good, *drops head into hands, mutters train wreck*…

    • TheColdWoman

      I feel bad for Taylor too but I think he’s the best of the three at interviewing to be able to answer questions about it.

      And I like your idea about the death is peaceful line or fighting the blackness – from Bella’s perspective with Edward doing all his little bites and Jacob and Rosalie taking the baby away. BUT I think they should carry it through in Bella’s perspective to Carlisle coming in to check on her and Edward grieving by her side while she narrates about the pain she doesn’t want him to know about, blah blah. And then we leave Bella’s perspective to show a close up of her face from above with closed eyes… Dramatic pause… and then she opens them and her eyes are RED. Then black screen – no fade. Sudden black. The End.

      Are you reading this Bill? Mel Mel? Ahem.

      • Luludee

        Brilliant idea! I can see it in my head complete with dramatic music. It would be killer and possibly annoy critics/civilians all the more.

  • Alice_NaA

    I actually haven’t got a problem with the oral c-section. It was the storyline that made the most sense in the whole book and that’s saying something. The pregnancy and the imprinting on the other hand…

    I’m actually kinda dying to see Rob play a dad. The hilariousness of his facial expressions will make it all worth it, I’m sure.

    • Rob’s flaming dashboard

      I gave you a thumbs up ONLY for the Edward as New Dad part of your comment!

    • Stacey

      Rob as a dad is going to be hilarious. Even more hilarious is his reactions to Taylor when he learns that he’s going to be his father-in-law. I am already starting to giggle just thinking about it!

      • Robsessedgirl

        I just re-read BD and I have to say I’m BEYOND EXCITED to see Rob as a dad as well. Just the idea of him holding a baby sends me into a fit of giggles. It’s gonna be so cute! But I am worried…..someone said in an interview that the baby might be totally CGI’d. How’s that gonna work?

        • igoogleit

          he’ll be the hottest dad DAYUM

          • Robsessedgirl

            @igoogleit I can’t even comprehend him as a dad…..it sends my brain into a fit of very strong excitement. I CAN’T WAIT. Him hugging Bella and Nessie….YES. ROB WILL SO BE A DILF….not only a VILF but a DILF. <33333

  • chochang

    “What can we do for the people who just DON’T KNOW?”

    We can have a sign at all theatre entrances saying “This movie for Twilight fans only.” So then, it won’t be R-rated. It’d be T-rated.

    • Somebodyelse

      win!

      • chochang

        why thank you.

  • Renie

    There are many adult content scenes and situation in the Twilight Series novels so the “wolf’s out of the bag” already. For the under age crowd they have seen “this guy” sneaking into Bella’s bedroom every night for two years, heard heavy breathing as a result of heavy petting, practicing for the “honeymoon”, bruising from a night of lovemaking, a siringe to the heart (Pulp Fiction style), and the near death, death of Bella, and birth of the baby…what’s left to the imagination? I say go for it with cinematic storytelling style. I’m sure the clever filmmakers will find a way to let us know what is happening without actually showing bloody Edward with Bella’s placenta in his teeth. Floss anyone?

    • celestialchic

      Now I know it’s possible to gag and laugh at the same time! “Floss anyone?” ewwwwww. . .

    • snowwhitedrifted

      Even with all of that, it’s still much less frightening than the evening news.

    • Luludee

      I was just thinking: “Oh hell, they (haters/critics/civilians) are going to tear us and the series to pieces anyway, so we might as well make it worth their while.” As Edward says in Twilight, “Well, I’m already going to hell, so….”

      #embracethemadness

  • Stacey

    O.K. Moon, where did you find that Taylor and toddler picture? It’s creepying me out. Everytime the page refreshes they pop back up again and their eyes start to follow me. Like I said before, creepy.

  • MidnightCougar

    Moon: Let me tell you girl, I have had 2 c-sections & my husband was there, full force, for both; saw everything & with his descriptions – TRUST ME, we DO NOT want to see that on a huge screen. I can’t even imagine seeing Edward doing that with his teeth – YUCK! Definitely should be FADE TO BLACK scene! I think that while Edward is performing the c-section, we could be inside Bella’s head experiencing the whole birth experience from her perspective – her pain (as her bones break), her feelings, what she is hearing, seeing, thinking, etc.
    As for the whole Jacob imprinting on Renesmee, I think it should be done as it is described in the book because as Jacob says on page 450 of BD, “You know I don’t think of her that way!” Refering to the fact that it’s not a sexual thing, at this point, so I think it can be done respectfully, using the perspective of Jacob as being another one of Renesmee’s caregivers.

    • Stacey

      I agree! I had just had a c-section when I started reading the Twilight books. When I got to Breaking Dawn it was just too close to what I had just went through. I had couple nightmares after that one. Vivid nightmares.

      I don’t think it matters how respectfully they make the imprinting scenes and try to explain it. People who don’t like the books are the series are going to talk bad about it. I don’t have feeling that they’ll buy the Jacob as caregiver, maybe Jacob as pedophile. Which is wrong, but somebody is going to say it.

      We joke about imprinting/Breaking Dawn on LTT, because we all love/like it in various ways cause it’s weird(me), the romantic aspect, etc. Those who have issues will continue to have major issues with it and are going to have a field day.

  • celestialchic

    Let’s not forget the boob bite by teethbaby . . . the amount of awkwardness could be endless if this isn’t done right. It would be too much to bear for a twirgin. They’ll be easy to spot, leaving the theater shaking their head, with a wtf look on their face. It definitely needs to be rated “T”.

    • Robsessedgirl

      This leads me to my other question….Bella is naked on the table in BD….they obviously can’t have Kristen naked, and a bra/panties set is awkward, especially for #boobbite2011. They can’t really skip over Jake saying in his head “all the times I imagined her naked, it was never like this”. Jussayin’. I’m worried. Speaking of naked Kstew, in BD also the morning after she looked in the mirror and was fully naked, how are they gonna show that? I don’t mean to sound pervy it just comes out like that.

      • Stacey

        Three words for you: Very careful editing. Can’t have it leaving the PG 13 territory for the kiddies.

        • Robsessedgirl

          I know it has to be….sort of implied but I just wish they could show certain things. I want to see Rob in action.

  • http://twitter.com/shleeeigh Shleeeigh

    Moon – literally EVERY suggestion you have made up there is brilliant. I love the idea of Part II* in 3D – even though I get a headache every time I see a 3D movie (Avatar, I’m looking at YOU) it would be worth it. It would totally bring that whole element of how everything looks different as a vampire, and it 100% fits with the story, AND you know you can charge more to get into a 3D movie so you would make more $$$ (which, let’s face it, is a big driving point for you right Summit?!). GENIUS!

    As for the baby lovin’, I feel so sorry for Taylor having to defend that one in every press junket. Poor guy. The idea of a flash of the future with a grown up Renasty is a good one, but even then it’s weird. I have no idea how they are going to get around that.

    Re: demon baby birth, I’d be happy with a shot outside of the room with a KStew scream suddenly cut off mid-scream and then the cry of a new born baby and that’s how it ends. We really, REALLY, don’t need to see what’s going on in there until Bella’s all cleaned up and going through the ‘change.’ Seriously, leave us with the sounds and our imaginations for that one, you feeling me Condon?

    Even with all of these issues and the inevitability that the movie is going to get torn to shreds by the critics and just about everyone else who has never read the books, my biggest fear is still what Renasty will look like – or how they will even get me to care about that brat. I seriously did not care about her in the books, I was even rooting for the Volturi to sweep in and take her away so Edward and Bella could live happily ever after just the two of them. I’d be happy with just Edward for the rest of forever.

    I’m not sure how I’m going to be able to hold my head high going into the cinema to see this—but there is a tiny part of me that hopes that they totally NAIL this with all the integrity it deserves . Wouldn’t that be awesome?

    * writing ‘Part II’ like that makes me think of Back To The Future!

    • http://twitter.com/shleeeigh Shleeeigh

      JEEZ THAT IS THE LONGEST COMMENT EVER!

      I won’t hold it against you if it never gets read – just please know that I’m unemployed at the moment and have a LOT of time on my hands!

      • Alice_NaA

        we love your comments… whether they are short or long. (I’m channeling some MJ black and white in this)

        • TeamSeth

          I want to thumbs up you more.

  • Pinky

    “…and not a kid strapped to Taylor Lautner in a Baby Bjorn!” Oh God…kill me now.

    2011 is gonna be a bad year to be Team Jacob. Dark days, indeed.

    • MidnightCougar

      You’re right Pinky! My daughter is Team Jacob & she is really concerned about how Jacob will be portrayed in the movie. She ask me the other day, ” Mom, when they make the BD movie, how are they NOT going to make it look like Jake is some creepy dude preying on little kids? ‘Cause when I read this imprinting stuff about Jacob & Renesmee, it kind of wierds me out & I LOVE Jacob!”
      I had no answer for her!

  • http://iloveboyswhosparkle.com Team_SixPack

    I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again… the only way that breaking dawn will ever work for me is as a musical…because we all know musicals are craptastic and campy and trying to act this book seriously is never going to work. The only way to make it good is to make it kitsch.

    Just picture it… first three rows are splash zone in the birthing scene… some creepy two year old kid bouncing around the theater in a harness and wires, Jacob’s wolf costume (i’m picturing cats here!)…the Volturi and the Cullens (it’ll be just like the Jets and the Sharks facing off against each other)…The huge chorus of vampires at the end… it would be awesome… now I just need someone to quit their job with me and help me set up and off off Broadway production ;)

    clearly I’ve thought about this too much… anyway, BD will be one of those train wrecks that I’ll end up looking at anyway, but as far as I’m concerned the saga could have ended with eclipse and I would have been happy.

    • purplescool

      LMAO! Literally, tears are streaming down my face after reading your comment. My two cents…everyone should be on roller skates while they sing.

  • operarose

    I really disliked the Twilight movie, but I’m all for bringing Cathi Hardi back to direct simply the “montage” sequence while Edward is ripping her womb. I second your thought… I think she could pull it off.

    What I am hoping for is something that makes sense (I mean, it had to happen within the context of the story) without dwelling on the gruesome details. And hopefully, minimal blood and gore.

    I’m actually a bit more worried about the scene where we’re going to see Bella drinking blood out of a sippy cup… errrghh. At least we’ll save money/calories on concession snacks during the Breaking Dawn pt. 1 movie, right?

    And yes, thank you for pointing out that we never saw the Jared and Claire thing in Eclipse. Even the Eclipse director didn’t want to throw in that minor-yet-important detail that would have at least prepped audiences, a tiny bit, for BD.

    The bottom line though is that I have confidence. I feel like the movies have gotten better each time, even though each one was tricky in its own right to bring to the screen. Breaking Dawn is, at least to me, the most creative, imaginative, fantasy-like book of the four and therefore could in a way be the most fun and translate the best to an exciting movie. Just trying to remain optimistic for the next year or so…

    • operarose

      *Quil and Clare, as someone pointed out above.

  • GeminiGypsy

    I agree that the scene should be blocked out somehow- that’s not something that I’d really like to see in real life. It’s an important piece in the movie, yet a Bella montage would certainly be important. What they could do, is show just flashes of what’s happening (like Edward’s teeth, maybe some blood, then Renesmee appears, and then Bella blacks out). They definitely need to do justice to the Jake & Nessie moments, because otherwise people are going to call Jake a sicko and not understand how it’s supposed to work. And they should definitely up the ratings on the movie this time, because it’s getting to the moment when the little 12 year-olds are probably not mature enough to watch it without getting nightmares :P I hope they do the movie right! Although, we can’t expect everything we want to be perfect :P

    • snowwhitedrifted

      I’m actually glad the little 12 year olds are going to get to see the “beauty and magic” of childbirth. It will make them
      a) appreciate their mothers
      b) stay clear of the sparklepeen for many many many years for fear of getting pregnant.

      • TeamJacobEdward

        MOTHER: You see that? That is what childbirth is like!
        12 YR OLD: Oh my God!
        MOTHER: And that is what happens when you have sex. You have sex, you’ll get pregnant, the baby batters you breaking your bones from the inside and then THAT will happen!
        12 YR OLD: (horrified) I’m never, ever going to have sex!

        Suddenly tween/teen pregnancy statistics radically drop.

        *giggle*

  • tuesdaymidnight

    Sigh… of course I’ll go see Breaking Dawn when it comes out, because I’m a masochist, but I still really, really think it’s better left on the book pages and not on screen.

    However, since we do live in a world where profit trumps taste, I think Bill Condon should just go balls to the wall with it. I want bruises, womb-eating, syringes of venom, Kristen dribbling blood as she drinks it from a sippy cup, graphic hunting scenes… this could be career-endingly good.

    • Stacey

      I agree! If you are going to make a movie of Breaking Dawn you give it 100%. There will be no way that I can see to completely make it acceptable and open to a wide audience, so just let it be as it was created. It’s gonna be a toss up no matter what they do. Either horrible, funny or unintentionally genius. I vote funny.

      • tuesdaymidnight

        Yes! To make it watchable to a wide audience they’re going to have to change a bunch of things. They should just go for it as is!

        Oh, and I think my vote is on unintentionally funny…

        • Robsessedgirl

          YESYESYESYESYES @TM do you even know how much of a win this comment is?! I thought I was the only one who wanted to see all of the birth sequence. Bring it on, Bill!

    • claire’s mommy

      Oh Hale yes. I want it to be so excellant that Bill Condon is banished from the Hollywood Hills and never shows his face in public again.

  • claire’s mommy

    First, must say I was so pissed they excluded my daughter’s name insiration.

    So maybe I’m the only weirdo here, but I totally thought Jake and Renesmee was perfect. I love Nessie. I feel lie she and Jacob were made for each other. It all just made sense to me. And maybe because I’ve given birth twice with no pain meds, the birth really didn’t freak me out at all. It might on a 60 foot screen, but I really doubt it.

    What I am frightened of is seeing the Stew trying to portray maternal instincts. Now that’s a problem worth discussing.

    Alright, bring on the downthumbers.

    • TheColdWoman

      I was going to downthumb you for loving Jake and Renesmee but then you made the comment about KStew. So true.

      • claire’s mommy

        Thanks for ot downthumbing me. But seriously, we should all be worried about KS playing the part of mother. Seriously? Just no. The utter turnaround that Bella makes when she finds oout about the baby is like a whole new character.

        • tuesdaymidnight

          I’m also worried about her playing a graceful, suave, sparkly vampire… just saying.

    • Stacey

      I would never thumbsdown you, but whenever I think of Jake & Rene… I never spell that right, you know who, and their love that has no name. Wait it actually does, imprinting. I think about someone “imprinting” on my 3year old, then I imagine punching them in the face.

      • claire’s mommy

        <3 you too Stacey, thanks for not DTing! When I think about a man my age imprinting my daughter, I think I would have the same reaction Bella did at first, but I think I would do the same as she did, accept it from my mind-reading husband that it wasn't some gross pedophile thing.

      • Owning It

        Yes!! *FACE PUNCH*!!!!!

        (and I say that as a mother of a 2 yr old little girl!)

    • purplescool

      The whole mothering issue is neatly side-stepped in the book since very little “mothering” is necessary: Renesme sleeps through the night (how convenient for Edward and Bella), grows rapidly, learns quickly, moves gracefully, understands everything going on around her and thinks like an adult, oh and she behaves like an angel.

  • eatmyjorts

    How about they just change the effing plot & Jacob & Leah end up together , rescue Rsmeeeeeeeeeee from something terrible (i.e the original plotline )& thus are a part of her, Edward & Bella’s lives forever.

    • Stacey

      Didn’t the end of Breaking Dawn leave an opening for a sequel on that one? I seem to remember the other vamp/human hybrid giving Nessie the eye and Leah still hanging around. One can hope, right?

      • TeamSeth

        Maybe Leah will imprint on Waylon Forge? Weirder things have happened.

      • Alice_NaA

        I’m thinking vampire mutants might be sorta immune to the whole imprinting stuff. And so Renesmee runs off with this other freak they dragged to the big Vulturi confrontation (Don’t remember his name, it sounded like something from the bible). And then Jacob and Leah fall in love when the Cullens leave Forks and the whole werewolf thing dies out.

        P.S. You’re welcome, Stephenie.

        • eatmyjorts

          I love you Alice.

    • Stacey

      Why did you get a thumbsdown? I gave you a thumbsup, because I think Jacob and Leah could be a fun couple. Honestly, they fight so much it would be a great idea, so you would always have some angry sexual tens…I am thinking about this way too much.

  • Nadia

    I really would NOT like to go in details with the Edward, teeth, Bella’s womb thing.. xD

    Make it more subtle.. ! And I really hope the Renesmee thing is gonna work..

  • Ashley

    I know this is off topic, but until I read this post, I had NO IDEA that Rob sang the song during the Twilight montage scene! Thank you for mentioning that! I LOVE that song and, now after having seen Twilight tons of times, I will watch it just for that scene because I love that song so much- doesn’t really sound like what I thought Rob would sound like- which is a good thing!

    • Alice_NaA

      I don’t think this comments section EVER stays on topic :p.

      • Rob’s flaming dashboard

        There’s a topic!?

        Aww Moon and UC, tweed serious, we love your letters and find them inspiring for the day’s conversations and giggles.

        Thank you from the bottom of my heart for LTT and LTR.

  • angie47670

    Okay…so I admit when I read the series…Breaking Dawn was the one book I could not wait to see become a movie! Okay…maybe sick and twisted but my brain was visualizing all these scenes and I got to thinking imagine what Hollywood can do with this and CGI. The Isle Esme doesn’t have to be done as a fade to black…haven’t enough movies used the element of use your imagination and shadows on the wall that we can get around that part?? I really don’t have a problem with the c-section thing (probably because I work in a pathology lab and am around body parts and dead people on a regular basis but I digress) but I don’t think it needs to be completely graphic with Edward’s teeth sinking in, etc. And then you’ve got the whole imprinting thing…it needs some explaining to those not versed in Twilight…no way in heck am I even attempting to explain this movie to a newbie *lol* I agree…rate in T!

  • Jamie

    It’s funny to think I just had this “Breaking Dawn Birth Trainwreck” conversation with 2 of my girlfriends on Friday. We all have kids so we understand that the actual birthing is not this lovely beautiful thing that some (coughhippiesnooffensecough) would have you believe. I, myself personally, didn’t want to see it and my husband turned white (not a good sign) so they better not get all technical. I even said, “I can’t wait to see how Summit’s gonna fuck this up,” excitedly, like I’m so used to their fuck-ups, that it’s becoming an MST3K experience for me. Don’t get me wrong, I still can’t get enough of the movies and I let all 3 of them get away with a whole lot more than I do others movies, but I have to be honest here. Great idea about Jacob seeing a grown version of Renesmee because if I saw a 16 year old giving my 2 year old fuck me eyes, I would have to karate chop him in the throat and escort him from the premises with my 38. Anyhoo, I think when we sees her, a well-timed voiceover would be just the ticket.
    Here’s my suggestion for Breaking Dawn…Kellen’s abs. Maybe I should write Summit and tell them to put lots and lots of scenes of Kellen shirtless,wolf pack style because after seeing him on Men’s Health, (Thank ya Jeeesus), I need more.

  • Robsessedgirl

    Yes, I am concerned how it will look on screen. I’m so looking forward to Rob as a dad though. I really don’t want the honeymoon scene to be fade to black, nor do I want the birthing scene to be that. I know I’m weird, but isn’t it time to go all out? Wouldn’t you just love to see how Alan Ball(True Blood) would do BD? I can’t even imagine the honeymoon scene. Anyway, I still have faith in BD. #pillowbite2011 ya’ll!

    • claire’s mommy

      True Blood director + doing BD = SO MUCH FREAKING WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Robsessedgirl

        Yes! Maybe Alan could do his own version of BD. Onto subject, I would LOVE to see a Cullen/TB fight. Edward VS Eric and BEEUL vs Edward. YES!! If Rob and Alexander were in the same room….the sexiness would be THROUGH THE ROOF. Alexander Skarsgard said in an interview he’d like to buy Edward a beer and have a chat. Back to TB I feel the need to say that Viking flashback in the end of last nights episode not only made me tear up, it made me love Eric/Askars even more(if that’s possible). Back on topic though, I’m reeeeally excited for BD regardless.

    • snowwhitedrifted

      Sadly, I don’t think that would work. He has lusty vamps to work with, not the Cullens which are kind of the hippies of the vampire world.

      • Stacey

        When I was watching TB last night, I was thinking that if the Cullens would get in a fight with the TB vamps that it would not be pretty. Those True Blood vamps like to play dirty. Hee hee dirty.

        Hey if I ask your husband to pretty please give you HBO, so we can talk about True Blood do you think he would?

        • snowwhitedrifted

          I just sent you a DM.

  • Ang

    The ONLY way I will be happy with the birth scene is if it is done from Bella’s perspective….you know, confusion and fuzziness; not really understanding what is going on. I have always found Robward hot no matter what he’s doing, but I’m afraid after seeing him eat his newborn child out of his wife….the thrill may be gone.

    • TeamSeth

      I think this is the best option I’ve seen so far. I realize that the movies have sort of gone omnicient with a somewhat third on Bella anyway by this point, but I think that a hop back to Beller’s POV in this instance would work. That said, even in Cougwicke’s version, we still see Edward sucking out the venom and not able to stop easily, which would mean we might have a glimpse at him doing the C-section. I guess we will all have to find the will to watch.

      • Ang

        “find the will” – FTW!

        And…you might have just reminded me that Edward sucking the venom out of her arm wasn’t exactly a turn off.

        • TeamSeth

          ;) He does have some crazy eyes there, though

      • Rob’s flaming dashboard

        Indeed. We “will have to endure it.”

  • Midnight_Cyn

    I had to do some research to comment today (phone call early a.m. to Twi-Daughter, she sounded almost pained to have to once again explain the birthing scene and the whole imprinting thing to me AGAIN) so with the limited info I have, the only thing I can really is say, WHY? Why did this have to get written this way to begin with? Carlise has been a doctor for like evar…he should have been there and made the delivery more believable, tolerable etc. I for one was looking forward to a beautiful Edward/Bella loving, romantic “changing” and feel sort of cheated that it did not happen that way. As for Jacob and the imprinting, it is just wrong on so many levels. No matter how they portray it on screen it will start a firestorm of critism, along with the bruises on Bella, especially for those that have not read the books/understand the storyline etc., These are such sensitive, personal issues (giving birth, abusive relationships) to begin with and having been in the headlines as of late, so IMO no matter how delicately they are handled there will be NO way to avoid the backlash. I agree with what others have said, bizarre that we must “fade to black” when it comes to a MARRIED couple showing loving caring intimacy, but its okay to show a baby being chewed out of its mothers abdomen??? WTH? Give me the montage from Bella’s POV with images from the first 3 movies leading up to this point (don’t they say your life flashes before your eyes as you are dying?) omit any viewing of the birth and come back to present with Edward desperately trying to save Bella…
    Good Monday Morning to everyone… :)

    • Ang

      Hey MidCyn! I love your idea of the montage of Bella’s life flashing before her. That would be perfect. Sort of like when she’s bitten in Twilight and we have Robward singing in the background and pretty images floating by. I would much prefer that to watching a c-section of any kind. :-)

    • TeamSeth

      I for one was looking forward to a beautiful Edward/Bella loving, romantic “changing” and feel sort of cheated that it did not happen that way.

      I always thought SM decided to do it this way so that it was a matter of life or death, well, vampire life or total death. Because Edward still didn’t really want to change her (well, not entirely anyway). And I thought SM did it so that Jacob would be okay with it. BD seems to be all about win win for everyone. Except Irina.

      • Stacey

        Don’t forget about poor Tanya! She so got denied that Edward lovin’.

        • TeamSeth

          That’s true.

    • Luludee

      Hi Cyn!

      Just a thought on the whole changing Bella scenario.
      I actually liked that it went the way it did. I don’t think it ever could have been a sweet and loving moment with just the two of them, because even though Edward had promised he’d change her, he still did not want to do it. I think he’d feel guilty about it for awhile at least.

      He was overwhelmed with guilt at just knocking her up, because it was going to kill her – thus in his mind, making it that he had killed her. Now faced with the reality of her impending death, the only thing to do is change her. So, instead of damning her by changing her, he’s saving her by changing her.

      I think the change HAD to be the way it was, in order for both of them to finally be at peace and on equal footing. There is no guilt on anyone this way.

      • TeamSeth

        This.

      • Midnight_Cyn

        Really good points from both you and TS..its really hard not knowing the WHOLE story so I am looking at it with a slight disadvantage. Giving much thought to the above, I think I am still wishing it was done differently, lovingly. First…ANYTHING is better than Edward chewing the baby out..I mean really…although I understand your POV about Eddie NOT wanting to change Bella and this scenario made it not so much a choice but necessary to save her life, but for me by the third movie, Edward had finally realized that Bella had made her decision, was NOT going to change her mind and he had come to terms with it. That was why he was so insistent that she marry him. He wanted it to be done the “right” way. I didn’t feel as though he was still struggling with it AS MUCH as he had been, realizing that in fact it was the ONLY way they could share their love eternally. Sure he may have still been worried about her soul but I really felt like in the end it was HER choice, she had clearly made it, family voted etc., So I don’t think that it had to be done in such a gruesome manner..but that is just my opinion..Could be I just don’t like gore..I am all about the love… :) I will still picture him lovinly holding her in his arms after their wedding, looking into the depths of her eyes and whispering “Are you sure Bella, there is no turning back, this is forever” and Bella reaching up to his face and saying “Forever will never be long enough with you” and then he kisses her face, neck and well you know the rest.. :)

        • Luludee

          Yeah, I can see that maybe it didn’t need to be quite so bloody and messy, but I think the circumstances are what was so important.

          While I’m not grossed out by the birth scene at all, I was pretty surprised, almost shocked by it. But I think that’s because we hadn’t really encountered anything even near that messy in the whole rest of the series. It seemingly came out of no where and I found myself re-reading it a few times to see if I had actually read it correctly, lol.

        • TeamSeth

          Edward had finally realized that Bella had made her decision, was NOT going to change her mind and he had come to terms with it. YES!

          And your rendition of him changing her is like…. super hot.

    • bookworm

      I completely agree. :)

  • imnoddin

    I read this version yesterday:

    http://twicrackaddict.blogspot.com/2010/07/what-to-expect-when-bellas-expecting.html

    It makes it more clear that he was being sarcastic about the birth scene.

  • BayWolf

    Well if there is something else: The whole build up to the big fight with the volturi – and then – nothing really happens.. Hmm.. That one I really think is going to disappoint the audience..

    But then again: I’m not really worried – the movies are probably going to suck for outsiders – but the fans are going to love them (or parts of them) anyway :-)

    That’s how I feel – I’m a fan – I will love the parts they get right – and forgive the ones they don’t…

  • blondieinco

    Hi! I’ve been lurking for about two weeks and finally decided to post. Love LTT and LTR! Thanks to you, my kids are spending the summer vacation of their dreams running wild and watching TV non stop (“I’ll be right there sweetie, I just want to read one more post”).

    I”ve been a Twi-fan for a couple of years and was actually kind of getting burned out. But, just like discovering a long lost bag of M&M’s in the back of the cupboard when you thought there was nothing good to eat in the house, I found LTT and LTR.

    Great blog ladies! Love the posts and the comments!

    • http://letterstotwilight.com unintendedchoice

      oh thanks!!!! Welcome to our brand of crazy :)

    • http://isuckatbloggingbuticanbite.blogspot.com/ Janetrigs

      <<<—- CRAZY

      Oh and hey!

    • TeamJacobEdward

      Welcome to your new addiction. You thought just reading the posts took over your life, now you’ve started commenting… Let the downward spiral commence.

      :)

    • imnoddin

      I’ve been lurking for two weeks as well, but I’m a twi-virgin. Today was my first post as well.

      Love the M&M analogy!

      Love this blog as well. I’m doing my best to get caught up.

    • TeamSeth

      Now I’m craving peanut butter M&Ms.

  • same

    I guess I have pretty high threshold for my willing suspension of disbelief. I was, on first read, a little shocked that SM went there (the pregnancy & the imprinting) but then I thought, really where else was she going to go. Especially after finishing the book, I could see why she needed to bind the pack to the Cullens…that being said, I did have to reach on the whole imprinting on a baby thing. Just saying it’s not in a creepy way is really not enough, especially given the lack of the Quil & Claire prep. I really like Moon’s idea of a flash forward to grown-up Renesme, something like, someday she’ll be right for me… I don’t know. I have to hope that they’ll find a way to get it past the censors, or cut it altogether, although why would the pack risk their entire tribe on a battle with the Volturi without it…
    Of all the potential problems, I’m actually more concerned about how they’ll portray the mental aspects of BD. Twilight has always been so much in Bella’s’head, and voice-over works for that to an extent, but how will they portray the pack, the schism and the internal communicatio. I really liked being in Jacob’s head because he’s funny. I liked his interacyion with Seth & Leah, but it was almost all in wolf form. A wolf’s eye view of passing forest and extended voice-overs would just be boring. I have the same worry for the “battle” at the end. I can accept SM’s assertion that there was no way for the Cullens to truly win a physical battle, but I’m really not interested in watching a verbal debate.
    It’s so funny to me that I can accept so much and then be bothered by voice-overs…

    • same

      Ok, does anyone know how to stop a blackberry from doing the close-quote thing when all I want is an apostrophe s?! It’s’really ticking me off and I never catch them all!

    • dameironfury

      I may be the only one, but I completely saw the whole imprinting on the demon baby coming a mile away. *imprinting happens for the wolves
      *everyone else is imprinting
      *Jacob’s story needs to get wrapped up and get a sort-of happy ending
      *He couldn’t imprint on that random girl from his biology class that we’ve never met, because that wouldn’t make any sense. (To make the story good, it would have to make things worse for everyone, right?)

      As soon as we found out Bella was pregnant, my first thought was, “Uh, Jacob’s going to imprint on that baby.” Steph is a smart girl and probably wouldn’t have put in the whole “Quil imprinting on Claire thing” if it weren’t foreshadowing something.

      Sorry if I was geeking out too far.

  • snowwhitedrifted

    I miss Aro.

    • TeamSeth

      Isn’t he wonderful!

      • Robsessedgirl

        me too me too. Michael Sheen is great.

    • The Old One

      Actually one of the things I’m looking forward to most in Breaking Dawn is seeing Michael Sheen as Aro again!

      Rob was in an interview talking about how hard it is to portray emotions with the eyes, when you’ve got the big contacts in, but after re-watching New Moon prior to seeing Eclipse, I realized, either it’s not that hard, or Michael Sheen is just really on a level way above everyone else in these movies: just look at all the different expressions Aro managed to convey in just that one little scene: surprise, delight, confusion, anger, total insanity. That’s acting!

      • TeamSeth

        Michael Sheen is such win. And without those contacts, he has these gorgeous green eyes. Sometimes I wish he’d play Dr. Who… we’ve had a Scot, now I want a Welsh!

        • The Old One

          I noticed Michael Sheen years ago when he was just a wee thing, I think it was a PBS Mystery! production called Gallowglass, and thought he was really interesting, and have seen him pop up here and there. I think he deserves a lot more attention and major roles in things, if he wants them.

          • TeamSeth

            Have you seen the Damned United? I want to see it…he’s the lead. And then wasn’t he in Frost/Nixon? And then he played the prime minister in The Queen. But I have to say my favorite Sheen moment so far has been his appearance on Top Gear.

          • TeamSeth

            ps-I love those PBS mystery shows (and masterpiece theater) for just that! Orlando Bloom was in some episode of Midsomer Murders back in 2000…he was so young.

          • snowwhitedrifted

            I think I remember him being on an episode of 30 Rock.
            … and I thought he was the narrator on “Milo and Otis” but that turned out to be Dudley Moore.

          • Stacey

            Michael Sheen is a win in everything. I loved him in Top Gear.

          • TeamSeth

            YES! They had 30 Rock on our flight and my bf was watching and I saw him and jammed in my ear phones just so I could hear his voice lol

  • TeamSeth

    I really like the birth segment. I think it cements them as a family and that Bella has a real mom moment when she doesn’t want them to pull Renesme away. I even didn’t mind that ridiculous name the first time I read it. Until I read the middle name was Carlie and I wondered why that wouldn’t just be the first name. And then I realized I’d never noticed that both sets of “parents” have similar sounding names… did SM plan that?

    But, if they have to skip it, they should do the Kill Bill bit and have Jacob say to Edward, “Does she know her daughter’s alive?” and then cut to black and some epic closing credits score before we get Part II.

    • Alice_NaA

      And then in Part II she steals Mike Newton’s Pussy wagon and heads of to kill everyone who’s threatening her child or just works on her nerves. We need Quentin on this!

      • TeamSeth

        And during the “You nicknamed her after the loch ness monster!!!!!!!!!!!!” bit she’ll do the 5 steps to heart failure pressure point finger punch (heh, fingerpunch/facepunch) thing (whatever that is called) and yell, “Quil Quot Lay this, mother fucker!” and we’ll have a flashback to the tent scene and there’ll be a moment where Edward leaves to do a perimeter check and it’s revealed that Jake is actually the father… wait, then he’d imprint on his own daughter.

        EWW. Ignore this comment.

        • Alice_NaA

          I love you

          • TeamSeth

            Afterward I had this moment where I realized I should’ve posted that she stole Jake’s motorcycle and threw on a yellow leather get-up and met Dakota face-to-face with her red eyes flashing at Dakota’s thick blue eye makeup and Cherie Curry feathered hair. She would’ve leaned in close and all the men in the audience would think they were going to makeout, but no, she uses her samurai sword to slice off Jane’s face. j/s

        • TeamJacobEdward

          I can’t “like” this comment enough!

          lmao

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    No, just no

  • TeamSwiss

    Now I come to think of it… what is KStew gonna look like right before she goes in labour.. I mean.. all the.. pale, sick, skinny AND pregnant.. and then thirsty for blood.. it’s gonna be weird.. xD

  • Twi Mom (not like on “O”)

    The only good that could possibly come from the full manual(?) c-section is that it will scare the crap out of all the pre-teen girls and they will not want to think about “doing it” for a longgggg time!!

    I am trying to think of a good way to explain Jake and Ren…….e. They just did not do that great of a job explaining imprinting in Eclipse and you really needed the idea of Claire and Quil so that you were not totally thrown for a loop in BD. I just don’t see anyway of making it work for the Twirgins. The flash forward thing might work. Like that one cell phone comercial were they show the guy as pres. and it all came about becasue his future dad could change his bus ticket on his phone and then met the mom to be. So we see Jake and a beautifull curly haired blond woman and a few pup-pires and then work back to this moment skipping some of the awkwardness.

    Sorry if this makes no sense

    • Veronica

      “Twirgins” LMAO – Best description ever!!

    • TeamSwiss

      I really agree on the not explaining imprinting enough for those who haven’t read the books.. It’s gonna be so awkward, and we can look forward to explaining every single weird/awkward scene in Breaking Dawn, for those who haven’t read the book.. xD

    • Luludee

      “pup-pires” lolz!

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  • Veronica

    How in the world are they going to do an oral c-section and keep it PG-13??

    IMO, fade to black in the birth scene.

    And about the Imprinting stuff – it really DID bother me that they left out the “Claire and Quil” imprinting in Eclipse. I think they should mention it in BD Part 1, when Jacob dances with Bella at the Wedding….I don’t see any other way!!

  • Owning It

    I recently read an article stating that one of the reasons they were so interested in acquiring an Oscar Nom-ed director was to have someone of high caliber to be able to work with Kristen on her new “role” in Breaking Dawn.

    I’m not sure that an ‘EGOT’ award winning director could help this situation…

    • Owning It

      Comment Fail — that was supposed to be a reply to ‘Clarie’s Mommy’!

    • TeamSeth

      I read that as a “Nom nom nom” director. #Normal.

      • Owning It

        Love it!! Hmmm… are we talking ‘Nom nom director’ as in our very own DILF, CDubs, or more like ‘A Director who runs around going “Nom Nom”‘ like our own (ahem) Cougarita, Cathy Hardwicke??

        • TeamSeth

          I went to the Jasper bday scene moment…Condon in a bad wig and all. And there may or may not have been someone playing “Mr. Cellophane” on the piano before Edward throws Bill onto it.

          • Owning It

            ….. aaaaand now I read your reply as ‘Bill Compton’. “Edward throwing Bill onto a piano” had all the beginnings of a good fanfic…

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