What came first the Damon or the Edward? The Staceys dissect Twilight and Vampire Diaries

If you already watch Vampire Diaries, this post is for you. If you don’t, this post will show you WHY you should!

Dear Twilight,

As you might know (or the wonderful readers of LTT), we, The Staceys of Talk Supe, love Vampire Diaries. Almost as much as we love you, Twilight. No scratch that, as much as or, when Uncle Mason was on, a little more. (Seriously, did you see that guy? I bet Stephenie Meyers did a double take and almost said “Jacob who?”) I (East Coast Stacey aka EC) even started reading the books when she was a freshman in high school. (Vampire Diaries was the Twilight of the 90’s)

We feel pretty confident that we are well schooled on all things Mystic Falls due to taking copious notes while watching the show. I (EC) will ACTUALLY put her vanity aside and wear her glasses to get a better view of Somerhalder…the plot of the show.

SWD (aka SnowWhiteDrifted): It’s ladden with Twi references:

  • That one vamp’s computer password was “Kristen Stewart”.
  • They even have “Rose” who IS Alice 2.0.
  • Both set in upper middle class high schools with wolf packs and 6 packs

EC: We also noticed in our research that certain actors (ahem…Mr. Ian Somerhalder.) keep mentioning Twilight in interviews and Twitter comments. Also, have you noticed that Vampire Diaries keeps popping up on the comments here on LTT? (That might be mostly by us. Umm… #obsessed)

We discussed this amongst ourselves and thought, well 2011 would be the perfect time to compare and contrast the ‘good’ citizens of Forks and Mystic Falls. Though they reside on two different coasts (you know, rainy and chilly Washington and good ol’ North Carolina ya’all! But where, oh where, are the accents?) these two should be able to play nice! Just like the Staceys!

Heroes:

There is much comparison between Edward and Damon, but this is incorrect. (We say this pointedly to Mr. Somerhalder, who keeps bringing it up. Good thing, you’re cute mister!) The real hero of VampDi is Stefan, who is quite often forgotten about. (Poor Paul!)

Stefan and Edward share many common traits: intense emo-ness, a love of hair gel and a need to raid the closets of old men. Just put Edward in his New Moon Grandpa suit and stick Stefan in his flannel, plaid shirt/cardigan combo, then take them to the firehouse on bingo night. Honestly, Stefan would make a fantastic edition to the Cullen family. He could teach new vegan Vampires to catch bunnies. (He was an excellent teacher/camp councilor to Caroline!)
SWD: Oh I’d love to see Stefan absorbed into the Cullen family. Stefan and Edward would be besties! Bros!! The Harold and Kumar of the Pacific Northwest!! Also, Stefan could instruct the Cullens on putting a spell on their Cullen crest so that they could walk in the sunlight too. Get rid of that whole sparkle-plenty business. Carlisle would share his scarves and Esme would fluff his hoodies (In the dryer, people). I think Stefan would hit it off with Alice. *wink wink*. Leaving Jasper (sorry Jas, but you’re still my fav) to pack up and go to Bon Temps to play Confederate soldier with Bill Compton. (wait a minute, this may be in my fanfic… I digress).

Heroines:

Where there are emo boys and sexy baddies, you have to have the damsel in distress. These two movie/television characters are practically interchangeble danger magnets. Unlike, the Buffy days of old, Elena and Bella are saved by their men. I seem to recall that book Elena was more proactive than Bella, also blond.
The important part is that these two are also torn between two men. Elena gets to choose between Stefan and the fabulous Damon. Bella has Edward and…Jacob, who needs a shirt. (Side note, Damon doesn’t) (Disclaimer: EC is only Team wolf/shifter on True Blood. Except, for the too short of time on VampDi when she was Team Dearly Departed Uncle Mason. * sniff *)

Villains:

Like True Blood’s Eric, Damon is a semi-villain. He can do good or really bad things if he wants to. Damon ‘killed’ Elena’s brother more then once this season and the dearly departed Mason was one of his causalities. (SWD, I still think Mason’s coming back. He’ll reincarnate, like Bella’s flannels) Yet still, there are far worse characters on the show. Twilight, on the other hand, except for Laurent’s momentary walk on the veggie side are primarily all bad boys and girls. James and Riley were bad. Not too much redemption possibilities with those two. Perhaps, if James had a better wardrobe and a bath? Hmm…
SWD: I think it’s his odd arm poses and crouch stance that make him so irritable.

BUT, the true baddies of both are the ladies! Victoria was a badass. If only her bad girl antics were shown in more detail, she would have been really scary. VampDi’s Katherine has the same Victoria qualities, but they show her doing the evil things. I wouldn’t want to meet her in a dark alley! (Of course, I probably would just think its Elena and ask if she wanted to go get a manicure. Unlike, Bella, Elena seems to be a girl who wants to get her nails done.)
SWD: I want to go boot shopping with Bonnie and Alice.

Sexy times:

VampDi has them. Lots of them. Twilight doesn’t until the implied loving in Breaking Dawn. Which leads to the biggest difference, Damon and Stefan thankfully can’t procreate. The Cullens, with their sparkly manhood can. This leads to all sorts of spine breaking hijinks. Yuck!
SWD: Ever wonder what kind of music Edward and Stefan would choose for smexytimes? I do. Is that “Normal?”

EC: Totally normal! I like to imagine some Dave Matthews Band or Train! Through in some vintage Counting Crowes. I could do this all day!

Violence:

We touched on this in the Villains category, Twilight seems to shy away from a lot of graphic violence. It has it, but it’s quick. The Vampire deaths in Eclipse were all crystal shattering, which looked cool, but not scary. The scariest Twilight book scene was in Breaking Dawn…you guessed it Bella’s childbirth scene. Still having the nightmares!
SWD: For me, I think the wedding braids are even scarier than the childbirth scene.

VampDi is traditionally violent for the CW. Not Supernatural violent. I only watch that show for the Winchester Brothers and my eyes are covered for most of the show. VampDi is tame in comparison! But, there’s a much bigger mortality rate of major characters. If Newton was on that show, he would be dinner by now.
SWD: I can see Newton walking into the Mystic Grill. Trys to lay down some moves on Caroline. Caroline is annoyed and has herself a Newtontini.

More after the jump!

Vampire “Sopranos” :

While Twilight’s mafia, in charge of keeping everything secret and insuring blood flow, is the Volturi, led by good ‘ol Aro, VampDi has this “Klaus” dude (which we haven’t met yet) who sees to it that the troublemakers sleep with the fishes. His hitman, Elijah, is out to capture Elena for some reason. Like how Aro is very focused on Bella. With both Elijah and Aro, we don’t know if they are going to protect, capture, or dispose of said vampire bait. We don’t know if they wish to leg hitch, imprint, or hunt Bella and Elena.

EC: I love you called them the Vampire Sopranos! Do they hang at the Vampire Bada Bing? Because, I really don’t see Aro and his boys hanging out there with their scarves and penchant for baroque chamber music. No Ke$hia at their club. Also, how would Jane EVER get a fake ID? She looks like she’s twelve. On a side note… Elijah is kind of cute!

The Secondary Characters:

The Cullens are a great bunch of characters. It’s easy to get attached to them. Particularly, Emmett and Alice. There should be an Emmett and Alice comedy spin-off. It would be brilliant!

Other then Bonnie (coolest witch ever, after Buffy’s Willow) and Caroline, the VampDi characters take awhile to get used to. Jeremy has been nicknamed Whiney, solely for season one. Yes, he is more tolerable and grew abs, but these things stick. He was insufferable last year. Tyler aka Pissy, is still the most annoying wolf on the block. There you go, Twilight’s Paul. You are no longer the jerkiest wolf. You’re welcome.
SWD: True. I didn’t think much of season 1 Matt, buttttt season 2 Matt grew some moonstones or something. Now, I’m Team Matt.

EC: Poor little Matt! I just want to be on his team, because he never wins! If I could create a Twi/Vamp Di spinoff, I would hook him up with Angela. They are both nice, plus Ben never made it onto the movies anyway!

Wolf pack:

I must admit that I (EC) was never really ever the Wolfpacks biggest fan. I, did, want to buy them some comfortable Hanes teeshirts. Affordable, comfortable and you can tell they can easily rip when morphing into a giant, hairy beast. Because, sometimes boys you really should wear appropriate attire. You know, around the children/vampire baby hybrids you imprint on.
SWD: Dear Wolfpack, I design t-shirts, I can get you a deal on the tagless! Call me.

The Vampire Diaries wolves aren’t the greatest either. One has been nicknamed Pissy and another is some girl who was on One Tree Hill. (Not that I watch One Tree..fine I love basketball playing brothers. Don’t judge me until you see Nathan’s abs.) Now that Mason, the one fabulous wolf is gone, I am eagerly awaiting summer and True Blood’s Alcide. Now there’s a wolf!
SWD: *HOWLS for Alcide*

Music:

We like the Music/Soundtracks for both Twilight and Vampire Diaries. (Except EC only sort of likes two Muse songs, so she could do without those) It’s nice to be introduced to new bands…hello Black Keys!

Fun note, Team Seth pointed out that the background music for the movie Twilight and the Vampire Diaries are VERY similar! See they are alike!

So what do our observations have to do with anything? Well, you can like both Twilight and Vampire Diaries! It makes perfect sense, they go hand in hand. Like Robert Pattinson and Ian Somerhalder, (SWD: Go on, picture it) you should really appreciate both for their…umm…attributes…ahh…acting skills…fine, their prettiness.

Check out Talk Supe for our Vampire Diaries and True Blood Compare/Contrast. We would do Twilight and True Blood, but it would be mostly differences. Lots of naked differences.
SWD: Sorry Cullens, the only vegetetarian items in Bon Temps are served at Merlottes.

With Love Bites,
East Coast Stacey and SnowWhiteDrifted (West Coast Stacey)

What do you think about the gals compare & contrast? Are you a VD watcher? I AM! Do you feel weird calling it VD? I DO! Are you excited for it to return on 1/27? What are you MORE excited for? Twi shooting in Vancouver? OR the return of Vampire Diaries!? Would you DIE if Rob & Ian hugged & a picture was released of it? I WOULD

Oh- btw… since NOTHING is going on, we’re trying to catch up on email & finding GEMS that people have submitted. If you have a GEM you think we need to post, send it on in!

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  • MariaCecilia

    I am sure you can like both Twi and VampDi – but where would you find the time…?!!! (Cut to the chase, bring me some pictures of shirtless Stefan, that will save time.)

    I tried watching the first season of VD but thought it a bit too much like the average teen series side to sit down to watch regularly. Like OC. With teeth.
    I am sure I would find a TV series based on Twilight just as boring, however, – wait depending on which actors they signed, of course! ;-)

    So are you talking mainly about the books or the TV-series here? Would it be worth my time to read the books?

    • Stacey

      Mainly we were talking about the television show. SnowWhiteDrifted never read the books and I last read the books in high school. (So it’s been awhile)

      The books do differ from the television show a lot. I seem to remember there being no Jeremy and Caroline being horrible through the whole book series. I actually preferred LJ Smith’s book series the Secret Circle instead. (Don’t trust me that it was good, I ALSO last read that one in high school.)

      Give season two a chance. It’s much better than the first season. I just think they need to find their groove and develop the characters more fully.

      • natteringyeahrobber

        I too could not get into the first season of VD. It just seemed like the writers were not all there, it was as if they never thought the series would make it to TV so didn’t even try. A big let down. It was almost good, but mostly just bad. I will try to check out Season 2 (and just Wikipedia Season 1 so I know what is going on – I didn’t make it past the 2nd episode of Season 1).

    • TeamSeth

      I started watching VampDi 6 episodes before the end of season 1. It was, of course, much more intense by that point in the season than in the beginning, and I got hooked instantly. (Albeit really confused about a lot of things) Then I watched season 2 so far this year and IT IS AMAZING. It’s like the show went off the CW and onto an adult network–not lying either.

      For xmas my fiance bought me season 1, which I, er, just finished watching via a 2 weekend marathon yesterday. Finally so much more makes sense ;) But, most importantly, I can fully understand your not wanting to watch it consistently at the beeginning. The first Vicki plotline and the journal writing and etc. is just kind of… meh. Very VERY high school. But I promise you, by the end of season 1 (once the Vicki plotline ends forward) things get more vampirey and less teen angst and it all becomes just an amazing show. So, I do really recommend giving it a shot. I think the acting itself is really, really well done. The way Nina Dobrev managed to fully change her character pre-knowing stefan’s vamp status and post-knowing is just incredible. She’s a really talented gal. Season 2 is really strong because it takes the local nature of it all and broadens it out… sort of like when we find out more than just England has wizards in book 4 of Harry Potter. It just becomes global and real and super fucking awesome.

      • MariaCecilia

        Thank you for your encouraging and enlightening comments! I will get right on to it!
        And the fact that you read the books in your teens does not necessarily deter me, Stacey: most of the favourite books I keep returning to I read when I was under 18. :-) (Including Narnia, Jane Austen and Ursula Le Guin)

  • http://twitter.com/tracitalynne Traci Olsen

    If you are looking for another vamp to. well, uh vamp on, I am mildly obsessed with Aiden Turner from the BBC show Being Human. Because:

    http://0.tqn.com/d/scifi/1/0/D/v/-/-/z201367_170x231.jpg

    Jaysus: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_eKazaW2D0nQ/S9BAhuYL4rI/AAAAAAAAAKM/ZfkNUcddS9k/s1600/Aidan+TurnerCROP.jpg

    Oh, and yeah the show is good, too. It’s on DVD now, and some lesser, non-Aiden version is coming to SyFy. But then Aiden is going to be in the Hobbit, which means I will be going to the movies for non-RPattz reasons!

    • Stacey

      Snowwhitedrifted and I LOVE Being Human! We wrote a post about how much we love it. I am ready for the new season. I think (actually pretty sure) that we are going to review the American version and if it’s any good recap the episodes. (When the next season of the British Being Human comes on BBC America we will recap that one too.)

      I’m just worried that the American version is going to be like the American versions of Coupling and Top Gear. Which are, in my opinion, ugh and blah.

      • RachelB

        ugh American version of Top Gear is TERRIBLE! But, it is their first try, maybe they will get better as it goes along? They just dont have that same chemistry between the host as British top gear does. Everything they do just seems so cheesy!

      • Anonymous

        Don’t know anything about other vamp shows, strictly a Twi-gal here. But if you want to talk British Top Gear, well that’s a different story! Never thought it would be a comment topic on LTT though. Just goes to show this blog will never cease to amaze and amuse me.

        • Stacey

          I love, love British Top Gear! My husband got me into it. We get the imported magazine (which is hilarious), have books and even a car sticker that’s the shape of the test track on our cars. Richard Hammond is my favorite. He’s so tiny and fun. Yep, Hammond is my favorite.

          • Anonymous

            My son got an “I AM THE STIG” window sticker in his Christmas stocking.

        • TeamSeth

          Sheen was on Top Gear (can we just keep calling it only Top Gear and make the specification be only for the american version?) and that was the best!

        • TeamSeth

          Sheen was on Top Gear (can we just keep calling it only Top Gear and make the specification be only for the american version?) and that was the best!

          • Anonymous

            They’ve had bigger stars for their “Star in a Reasonably Priced Car” segment recently. Would it be too much to hope they would get Rob someday. He could talk about his flaming dashboard and his Chevy Nova and fit right in.

      • http://twitter.com/tracitalynne Traci Olsen

        Ugh and Blah is right. At leas they did well with The Office. I am afraid the SyFy BH will be not so much good. But I will watch to find out!

  • Operarose

    Fun banter as always, ladies!
    I hate to admit I am not that into Vampires. I think Twilight is enough for me. I sometimes feel nostalgic for the era of girl power Buffy, however.
    Also, side note, “James” was given a 2nd chance recently with Xtina in Burlesque. (highly recommended by the way)

    • Anonymous

      This was my first comment on my phone; yay, it worked well! But the only thing is I can’t see other comments when viewing on my phone.

  • TeamSeth

    Um…. aren’t they in Virginia not North Carolina, or have I been completely misinformed this entire time of watching the series (which I had a marathon to finish season 1 this past weekend cuz I’m a cool person, ahem)

    • Stacey

      You’re right! I, once again, mixed up my Kein Williamson helmed shows. I might have been having Dawson’s Creek flashbacks. (Due to it being filmed there) Some episodes, I feel Stefan is channeling my boy Dawson. “Don’t Elena…” and “Why do you have to be so bad, Damon!” (For Dawson, insert Pacey instead of Damon.

      I really want to watch Dawson’s Creek right now.

      • TeamSeth

        Whew. I mean, I know they film it in Atlanta (except the pilot which was up in Vancouver — Aunt Jenna’s canadian!!!), but there was some concern that I’d gone more crazy. Anyway, I watched all the special features from the season 1 discs… whoa, julie plec is like a little too into it. And when did Kevin start looking like that? Do you realize I always imagined him to look like James Van der Beek?! Anyway…I learned a lot about the show.

        In addition to the theme music and score, VampDi also has the Editors in it! It’s Damon’s driving music. Not joking–any time he’s in his car, listen up for it. He’s like me, he only listens to the same CD over and over again in his car. That or the music director loves Editors so much and just forgets that they’ve used the same cut before like 12 times. (I thought it was only in season 2 during the “road trip” to the Alice 2.0 mansion, but SURPRISE it’s in all the damon driving scenes except I think with Caroline when she shows up to cheerleading practice—um, hello, where’s the cheer coach? Football team has a coach…come on people, let’s get some reality here!) I <3 the editors… must go listen to them now. :D

      • TeamSeth

        Oh, bonus comment: next time you watch season 5′s premiere “The Eleventh Hour”, notice the music that plays when Amelia Pond is sitting on her suitcase waiting for the doctor to come back from his 5 min Tardis spin… TOTALLY NEW MOON SCORE!!!!!!!!!! (I mean, not the same, but similar enough)

  • Anonymous

    I completely meant to start watching VD months ago but couldn’t find episode one. Due to slow internet, I didn’t try that hard. Internet is now better, and I’m ready for take two. (Although season three of True Blood calls, I’m ready for some wolves!)
    Also, you may have trouble with “VD,” I read Edward Cullen every time you type EC for East Coast…

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  • grwlingfish

    I’m a huge Vampire Diaries fan. I stopped watching in the middle of the first season due to another Thursday night commitment, but as soon as the DVD was sold, I bought it and watched the whole season twice in three days.
    I do disagree with the love of Bonnie. I think she’s a whiner, and what’s up with her side mouth? She didn’t have it in the beginning. She drives me crazy though.
    What about Alaric? I love him and Jenna together, super duper cute.

    • TeamSeth

      haha, you’re SO right about bonnie’s mouth! Too funny!!! It’s like she came back with bangs and a mouth thing. Yeah, I liked Bonnie much more before the whole grams thing (trying to avoid a spoiler). Now she’s just… sigh. And this season w/ Jere. I wish she’d just give into his pectorals already!

      I <3 Alaric. :D

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  • Anonymous

    Is this Discus beeming me up yet…..?

  • Anonymous

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  • Anonymous

    Woot woot!!! sorry for the double comment. Had to recieve special customised instructions from Moon and UC after ages of trying to figure this Discus out. yaaaayyy Im baaaack!!!!!

  • Anonymous

    Have not watched a single episode of VD…….. I know, right? But how does one do this without DH finding out?? And now D.M-in-Law is living with us for a few months, so can’t even sneak around in the day while DH is at work……Imma be taking suggestions now……feel free!

    • TeamSeth

      Can you access it online? I’m not sure since you’re not in the US, they might say no to your IP address. But it’s worth a go. cw-tv.com offers all the episodes. Try Hulu as well (is that still around?).

      Anyway, yay you’re back!!! And DMIL is living with you now? You owe me an email!!!

      • Anonymous

        I know from my own previous experience: CW says NO to non US IP addresses.

        • TeamSeth

          that’s sad. To be fair, bbc says NO to non UK IP addresses :’( But, it’s kind of ridiculous (to me) because the US sites all have built in commercials, and are privately funded, whereas the bbc is publicly funded. So I get why bbc isn’t allowed for us non-UK taxpayers, but I don’t get why the US sites aren’t available to non-US taxpayers. How are we supposed to be “globally connected” when they shut out the good people of the rest of the world from masterpieces like Vampire Diaries online!!!!!

          • Anonymous

            Trust me, I’ve asked this a million times, since I’m an American living 40 miles from the U.S. border in Canada… but I am STILL not allowed to watch U.S. TV shows online! Basically, it has to do with licensing agreements for the distribution of media across borders. In my case, a Canadian network has to buy the license to distribute a show in Canada before I can watch it anywhere; on TV, online, etc. These traditional copyright/distribution regulations feel ridiculously old-fashioned and out of date in this era.

    • Anonymous

      On the small chance you are in Canada, CTV streams them online http://shows.ctv.ca/TheVampireDiaries.aspx

      Of course, you’ll only be able to see the most recent episodes on there.

      As a side note (related to last week’s post), I finally found the network that carries Biggest Loser in Canada… it’s only shown in some markets here in Canada but any Canadian can watch it online at video.citytv.com

  • Anonymous

    Excellent taste, snowwhitedriftd, you watch the same shows as I do: basketball playing brothers, Supernatural brothers, vampire brothers… it seems they’re way hotter than only-child-boys

  • C4EverDazzled

    Love me some Vampire Diaries!! I read the books but I enjoy the show more, and I have to say while I loved book Bonnie, the one on the show annoys me. I have to say that if I compare the books then Twilight series wins but I think I like TVD show more than the twi movies (hides my head in shame) oh and on a side note yay for one tree hill :P

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