Open Letter and a Declaration of Independence to the Twilight Fandom

Dear Twilight Fandom,

Ok, this is it… we’ve read enough and we finally have something to say…UC and I have swapped enough emails and read enough blogs and tweets and tweetlongers making fun of the latest Robsten/Nonsten fight when we finally realized this: Why did we let the Robsten and Nonsten tom-foolery take us (the fandom) down? Why did we get caught up in that nonsense when there were movies and books and characters and friends to be made to take up our time and not wasted by playing a guessing game? And further more why did we let these people ruin a good thing? Remember the slo-mo running? Remember the lunacy of Buttcrack Santa? Remember how different the characters of Edward and Bella are compared to Rob and Kristen’s portrayal? Remember how we laughed and then loved the Pattinson Pants lady? Yea, we do too and we’re here to take it back! And we’re also here to ask some questions…

WHY does anyone still care? Why do some folks care enough about the relationship between two people they don’t know that they’ve made it their life mission to prove it’s validity one way or the other?  Why do they have to start tweet wars and blogs and live journals dedicated to rumors and bashing each other? What purpose does it serve to bash someone who doesn’t believe the same stuff you do? Robsten/Nonsten is like religion and politics, NO ONE wins in that discussion.

Do you own this shirt?

Furthermore can we talk about how both sides have said time and again they are getting tweet bombed by the opposition but when you do a search for their twitter handle no one is doing any sort of tweet bombing. Which leads me to ask WHO is doing this stuff? Are we not looking in the right places? Are we the only ones who aren’t seeing this stuff? Are some people just making it up or is Robsten/Nonsten really just a SMALL group of die hards that play on the fringes of the fandom yet have had deep and lasting effects within it?

Let’s be crystal clear, we’re not condoning any sort of bullying or crank calling or the emailing of bosses (deplorable, by the way. Simply gross.) or any sort of threats. But you also have to realize you run that risk when you’re on the internet. If you don’t want people to call your parents house or tweet mean things then get off the interwebs! Stop talking about topics that inflame crazy people enough to stalk you till they have information to “bring you down.”

We’ve talked a lot of (good natured) trash in our day and definitely receieved some hate mail and “you’re sad ugly bitches” comments but if ANYONE called my family or friends or threatened me, I was called out on lying or I was told to stop doing something by Summit/Little Brown/The Meyer you can bet your bottom dollar I would stop. Sure there’s such a thing as free speech but there’s also a little word I like to use called discernment. It’s knowing when to talk and when to shut the hale up.

Together or not, in the end it doesn't matter... but Bella and Edward on the other hand...

As for anything having to do with cast members or Rob and Kristen in particular we don’t even pretend to know what they’re thinking (unless of course it’s for the breaking down of a fake event ;)) and in the end why does it matter so much whether they are together or not or whatever it is in between. At the end of the day their real or fake relationship has and will never have any bearing on our lives. So stop hacking into their emails, spreading personal information, talking about other people in the fandom and let’s get back to ENJOYING this thing. Can all everyone agree on that? And can those of us who do not claim affiliation (or don’t care either way) with either side agree that we will no long put up with this nonsense?

Since today is Ash Wednesday I’ve decided I’m giving up the crazy and I’m taking back the fun. Good bye nonsense for the next 40 days!

(cue the Independence Day theme music)

Give me back my Twilight or give me dealth!
Themoonisdown

So is this stuff really happening? Are we missing things? Also be honest are there people out there who don’t know anything about what we’re talking about in this post? Is it really just a small faction or is it a large group?

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  • Ambella

    can you explain what happened? I saw Twicrack post something about it on facebook……I don’t do twitter cause I am “oldschool”…….
    people suck…..we need to have an emergancy bible study ;-)

    • Moon

      maybe we see a lot of it because of twitter and being more ‘behind the scenes’

      ill call kellan up about an emergency meeting

  • superhumanmoron

    Woah…people are hacking emails and making threats over this crap?? I am just going to hang out in my little blissfully ignorant corner where I am too busy having a life.

    • S.kay

      I’m clueless too. *shrug* I think I’d rather stay that way too. LIFE is too important for unnecessary drama.

  • Adrienne

    I know I’m part of the minority but I don’t know what you’re talking about! I mean, I may have a teeny tiny idea but I like oblivion – Oblivion is good!

  • Tigerkitten36

    Sadly I have no idea what your talking about? I have read about the twitter wars and stuff when you mention it on your blog but other then that I have no idea, whats going on. I guess I’m not down with the kids anymore. =(

    What Rob and Kristen do is between Rob and Kristen. Relationships are an agreement between two people, not for anyone else to say.

    Sadly, the internet has given a forum to off balanced people so that they can sit at home to bully, stalk and harrass–their neighbors, coworkers, complete strangers and even movie stars while remaining completely nameless. In person face to face these people wouldnt dare say what they write about others.

    The golden rule and manners still apply even on the internet.

    • Anonymous

      I totally agree with this. It is very easy to be sucked into the anonymity of the internet, but it’s better to assume that anything you say or do on the Internet is public – and therefore make it a point to conduct yourself online the same way you would in real life.

    • Moon

      dont be sad tk, it’s probably a good thing

  • Anonymous

    I had insomnia Sunday night so after stalking CW’s twitter page, I thought it would be interesting to do a Twitter search on Rob. I mean, what the hell, right? Let’s see, I found a really dumb Harry Potter/Twilight/Rob/Cedric “joke” that was retweeted like 900 times. It was really irritating to have to sift through that joke over and over. Maybe HP fans thought it was hilarious or something (it was tweeted by Lord Voldemortsomethingoranother). I also saw references to some Robsten hand holding secret tape but when I clicked on the video link, the video was removed. Only people kept tweeting about it long after it was removed so I was like WTF, how can these people keep discussing a “controversial” video that you cannot even look at? And then I found other sites where people were using lots of angry curse words about the missing, removed video. Anyhow, it seems that if you Twitter search for Rob, you had better be ready for bad Cedric Diggory jokes, derogatory Twilight references by HP fans, broken video links, and lots of curse words.

    • http://tracitalynne.com MarbleNutSlut

      I am firmly Don’tcaresten. Notmybizsten? Whichever. I don’t get involved, but then I sort of carefully pick who I follow on Twitter and what blogs I read. Mainly, ones with adults in them who can spell and only use all caps to be funny.

      I think it’s a small, loud minority. Sort of like the political or religious fringe groups: it’s really just a few people, but the news media latches on to a story and makes it seem way bigger than it is.

      And as far as the whole Potter/Twilight nonsense, I just don’t get it. “I like THIS young adult series!” “Oh yeah, well even though I am a full grown adult, I like THIS young adult series better, and You Are Stupid!” It’s true that I read HP and said, “My how enjoyable.” and then I read Twi and my brain melted into a goo of obsession, but I honestly don’t care if anyone else had a different experience. One would assume they did, as I am not a member of the Hive Mind.

      And that, my friends, is my coffee-fueled procrastinaty opinion of the day.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, the whole Twilight/Potter, JK Rowling/SMeyer “war” (which I saw on Twitter recently) is absolutely mindblowingly stupid. Well said. If you happen to like one more than the other, wow, great, who cares though. It’s about as stupid as shouting I LIKE COOKIES WAY BETTER THAN ICE CREAM… and getting worked up in a frenzy about it… I mean, um, yeah, so what?

        So to be tweet-serious for a second, what if people put this much energy into advocating world peace?!

        Alright, I’m going to stop procrastinating now, too, I don’t want to really spend more time on this issue than necessary, either ;)

        • Moon

          we’ve said it too… if we had twilight/rob/robsten/nonsten fans in the army or give them access to a computer with higher security clearances we would have found osama bin laden and cured cancer in 15 minutes.

      • TeamSeth

        Okay, I haven’t even read your comment yet, but I’m cracking up that you’ve taken on MarbleNutSlut with pride! <3 4evar! :D

      • Anonymous

        MNS – nice name change. :-)

        • MarbleNutSlut

          Thanks, ladies. It makes me laugh. (and I would be. I would be his marble nut slut. but in a a really respectful, mutually cooperative way)

          • TeamSeth

            Of course! Don’t want to knock those together…

  • Latersbaby

    Thank you so much for this letter!

    I’d like to think I’ve been keeping a fairly close eye on Twi-Rob-Fandom over the last several of months. Starting this summer, I’ll be able to dedicate most of my time to this activity. However, RL happened in a big way over the past couple of days…

    I’m in a hotel room far from home with my dear friend who just met/picked up her newly adopted 10-week old baby girl–‘RoastedPeanutChickenBaby.’ So, a few days away from the interwebs and the world of fandom is falling apart… not to mention the HUGE stuff going on in the FF world.

    So…
    1-Do I know what’s going on? NO. I can only find people talking about the talk of the event. Thank you for the offer, yes, I would appreciate someone sharing.

    2-When RL happens, it is nice reminder how silly/sad this drama really is.

    Laters

    • nocoolname

      Congrats to your friend!! Babies are Ten Kabillion times more important than the silliness of speculating on/getting upset over the relationship of two people WE DON’T EVEN KNOW NOR WILL WE EVER.

      But also…what’s going on in the FF world? I’m clueless

      • MarbleNutSlut

        Okay, just, no. There is no way there is Fan Fic Drama! That is insane. (but now I am curious. What could it be?!) *gets popcorn*

        • JustGoWithIt

          MarbleNutSlut! I’m a Marble Shaft Slut! Pleased to meet you.

          • MarbleNutSlut

            Are you speaking of the sexiest popsicle in existence? and if so, well…yes. As you should be.

      • Latersbaby

        Thank you nocoolname–We are in baby bliss right now! The FF scuttlebutt is regarding one HUGELY famous writer announcing the publication of her two-volume story. She’s received a lot of negative feedback, including another huge author (a real pioneer who kept people up late reading her story) posting private conversations between the 2 of them on twitter. I’m still trying to get the details on that one, too. All so sad.

        • Latersbaby

          PS
          FYI–for those of you who don’t know, I’m dedicating my time to this stuff for research (my job).

          • ladyofthemeadow

            Yesterday there was some obscure reference to FF drama, angry shouty posts, etc. on thecoldshower.com — I didn’t get it then.

        • gizmo

          Ok, I’m so into this one. The gossiping queen in me is rearing its ugly head. I really want to know about this because I’m a ff reader but I never get involved in behind the scenes stuff. I rarely review, I don’t follow the authors outside of their author notes and ff profiles. I remember there being a big deal about some authors taking down their stories before they were finished to get published or some other lame reason. And talk of using the ff readership as test audience. Which, if true, is lame. But again, this is what I pick up from author notes mostly. So, naturally, now I want to know more.

          Hahaha I read your comment again and it looks like a blind gossip item.

          • Latersbaby

            Yes. Drama indeed. To be fair, that really chilly HUGE author took, in my opinion, a good path in the process. She didn’t rip down her fic that was incomplete. She announced what she was doing in a long author’s not and promised to finish the story on her site.
            We could get into all sorts of conversations about ‘tests audiences’ and ff publication–I have a hard time believing someone who has never a story before had any malicious intent of ‘test audiences,’ but there are plenty of people to do that for us.

            I’m also feeling a little hypocritical gossiping on a day that we are discussing how negative this all is. So, on that note, do you think they will use a clear straw to for Bella’s blood sippy cup in BD?

          • gizmo

            Yes, we could really get into this one. I would think that too about malicious intent, but you know when people smell money strange things can happen, even to the ones you’d never expect it from. There were a lot of women out there who thought they could copy the Meyer formula to make some bucks. And man I could ask you all kinds of questions because I never talk to anyone about this.
            But you’re right, it’s anti gossip day on LTT so lets not. *pouts*

            About that straw. I think they should use a clear blue tinted one becuse when blood flows through that baby some purple magicness will happen and we all know purple’s cool.

          • Anonymous

            Who knew there was such a thing as FF drama? I guess it’s kind of nieve of me to think there wouldn’t be. There tends to be drama laced in everything.

            As for the fic by the chilly writer I’m pretty certain I know which fic your talking about because I was re-reading it when she took it down and was bummed that I didn’t get to finish re-reading the thing. I get why people would be upset if she took it all down and didn’t finish it online, and why if you’d started reading it recently and weren’t caught up. I guess I try to avoid the negativity, but it sounds like there is more about why people are mad than that. I’ll have to search the interwebs…

          • MarbleNutSlut

            Huh. I don’t know what this is and I am sort of new to the FF thing, but, I am guessing “huge” writer is a relative term. Wasn’t the author of the Golden Compass series a fic writer first? One assumes fic writers are, well, writers that want to be published someday? Or is that me being naive?

            Anyway, I hope the blood is in a McDonalds McFlurry cup.

          • Anonymous

            I really would only care that a writer took a fic down if I wasn’t done reading the the thing. Sure it sucks when a fic you really like italy available for a re-read if you wanted to, because there are some fica that I liked so much I’d def like to read them again. But drama because of it? That confides me. It’s the writer’s prerogative. IMO Maybe I just don’t understand the whole situation with this one. Which I’m sure is the case because today is the first I heard of the deems surrounding this fic. I knew it’d been taken down (all but most recent chapters). But my reaction was, “well cool, I can buy it if I want to re-read it, it’s not gone forever if I don’t want”

            And uses I’m guessing many fanfic writers want to get published. I have a finished original piece I’d like to publish, and I’m writing a fic different than the original piece) right now to get writing practice and feedback so I can go back to my original to make it better to try to get that one published.

            Like I said, I don’t understand what all the deal is…?

          • MarbleNutSlut

            Yeah, there are a couple fics that I re-read, mostly for the *unf*, and I would be sad if it went away. But like you said, it’s the writer’s prerogative. Shrug.

            Also, a lot of the fic I read ends up getting pretty OOC (what up, Edward/Jasper slash fic!) (errm…well nah. I stand by that.) so I am not sure if it would even qualify as copyright infringement. Totally different characters with Jacksper’s face (in my brain).

            You and I can sit and not understand, I guess. Shall I pour you a drink?

          • Anonymous

            Yeah. I guess I’d have to understand the ff drama to form a retire opinion. I caught Latersbaby’s comment when coming to reply to you that I’d not caught before, that some writers post a fic as a test to check receptive-ness to a story idea before removing, then publishing… Maybe that’s the deal they think happened with the fic LB is talking about. Again, I still know nothing. :)

            Drink you say? Yes please! Mmm, thank you. It is quite lovely disengaged from the drama, sipping a drink, removed from the negativity. So… MarbleNutSlut, huh? Would to u want to share the significance of your name, or just rather keep it an inside joke between you and you?

            Do you realize the awesome hilarity it would be if YOU were Stephenie?

          • TeamSeth

            Oh, TJE, you missed out on the MarbleNutSlut day?! You simply must go back and reread the Jessica Stanley comments from Monday. It’s just… it’s just so worth it. Then it will all make sense and you will giggle inappropriately at work every time you read her name.

          • MarbleNutSlut

            Ha! MarbleNutSlut Day. Ahh, that was good day. Caffeine does entertaining things to my brain sometimes. I changed my name to be funny, and now that is how I am logged in on this computer and I am lazy, so…here I am!

            Yeah, I can see how using people as test markets and then being all, “thanks, suckahs!” would piss people off. Still, to me it is all, *shrug*, free content and stories for you.

            And Yes. Drinks. I just found a recipe for something called a French 75, which is basically a gin and tonic but with champagne instead. I feel that needs to be drunk on the patio, but mine is still covered in snow. And it would be EPIC if I were SM, or if she would post as something horribly inappropriate. If I were SM, poor RPattz would have quit the films and sued me for sexual harassment by now. It would be a different world.

          • gizmo

            I think by huge she means the most popular writers in Twi FF reading community, aka best E&B smut writers. Because lets face it, that’s pretty much the only reason I sought out FF in the first place.
            Of course there are writers in the FF world that are using that to jump start their writing careers. But some of the Twi writers that started their fics for fun, decided to try and cash in on the popluarity and the momentum. I’m kind of skeptical about this, because a lot of the interest and passion lies in the Twilight connection. Once they go public with their fics and change the names of the characters and lose the association, we’ll see how succesful they are. Btw, this is just my observation, I’m not talking about anyone in particular or trying to be mean.

          • Anonymous

            How about no straw at all, or red, like DQ?

          • TeamSeth

            I like the red one. I really want a straw though, in particular a bendy straw or–even better–those hard plastic ones that are curly or are shapes. Like maybe it can be red in the shape of an apple!

          • Anonymous

            During my recent trek across the country, I ate at a Burger King, you know the place where the Twi movies had been getting love. Anyway. Their straws are indeed RED. I smiled whilst sipping my huge pop (soda to you non-Minnesotans) they called a Medium, thinking how perfect they already had it set up for Breaking Dawn; blood red straws. We can all wear our Breaking Dawn Burger King crowns sipping out of our red straws pretending we’re the one who got knocked up by Sexward drinking blood to feed the demon baby.

          • Anonymous

            Are you telling me the sequel of the story I’ve been waiting to read is no longer there?! AND on the week I got my laptop up and running. Sad, sad.

    • ladyofthemeadow

      I am thrilled for the arrival of RoastedPeanutChickenBaby!!! Babies are such a blessing especially when they arrive this way! Congrats.

      However, I do recommend giving her a name that she will be able to spell once she reaches Kindergarten.

      • Latersbaby

        You’re right. We’re changing her name to Renesme.

        • TeamSeth

          That’s so cute! And really meaningful. AND you’ll have the benefit of making TONS of new Twi friends, because there’s just absolutely no way that they can “wonder” if you named her “Bella” per accident or obsession. It’s very clear why you would name your child Renesme.

    • Moon

      oh man FF drama is a whole other beast we cant even keep up with… this is probably because you have to read it to know what the hale is going on. so i shall scroll up for your analysis…

      • Latersbaby

        Moon,
        Run… don’t walk… RUN from that craziness. I’m waiting for the worlds to collide:
        An FF author who wrote a story about Bella and Edward being or not being in a relationship pulls her story b/c it is getting published… Earth will implode. The four horsemen are coming.

        • Anonymous

          Holy Cow, seriously? Can they do that, publish a book on someone elses characters?

          • natteringyeahrobber

            I would imagine that if you gave some rights to original author (rights = money and some “based on the XXX book by XXXX” note on the title), it would be do-able. I would imagine it all comes down to sharing copyright and cash.

  • nocoolname

    This post is exactly why I read LTT for my Twilight silliness and nothing else. You guys get that it’s JUST FOR FUN. RL is actually what is, you know, REAL.

    • Moon

      REAL LIFE!!

  • alice_av

    I agree with you, I’m only on this for the fun, RL has enough drama to be worry about people we do not know so keep the fun and give up crazy

  • Anonymous

    I don’t know the specifics about what you’re talking because aside from reading LTT I pretty much am unaware of the happenings of the fandom, but with that said, I will venture to say something to these Robsten and Nonstens based on what I’ve seen in the Twi fandom over the past few years:

    Somehow you have worked up in your minds that the R and K romance is an epic, mind-blowing out-of-body romance that nothing on planet earth has ever before experienced, a veritable tale of secret love that knows no bounds and pales pretty much every other romance in history, real or fictional, in comparison, that makes Gone with the Wind look like a lame Disney Channel show starring one of Taylor Lautner’s “ex-girlfriends”. The epicness of the magicness of R & K either blows your mind with pleasure (Robstens) or makes you so disgusted you want to devote your life to campaigning against it with all the fervor (and logic) that former CBS sitcom stars have devoted their life to campaigning for “winning.”

    So, here’s a reality check for you: It’s probably not like that. I imagine they work 12 hour days and, at the end of a long day, they most likely collapse on their hotel room bed and complain about the annoying new craft service that serves only meat patties and celery sticks (so they have the bodies of vampires on-screen) and share 1/2 a cold hot pocket before falling asleep at 9 pm, only to start the whole thing over again the next day at 4 am.

    On their day off, they sit in said hotel room, order “repurposed” and “upcycled” clothes from Etsy (since they can no longer go out to thrift stores in public) and try to sneak in a pizza without anyone from the cast and crew seeing them (it’s not allowed in the nearly-anorexic looking vampire diet).

    That, children (and sadly, adults, too), is the epic romance that you are devoting your lives to.

    Not to discount their lives…but, I mean, it’s not exactly a sublime romance that the world has never before seen, either.

    Edit: I feel creepy just writing about what their lives are probably somewhat like. How do people actually devote a good portion of their day to doing so?! gah…makes me feel gross even thinking about it.

    • ladyofthemeadow

      Well written, thoughtful, balanced posts like this are what distinguish LTT/LTR from the other Twilight sites out there. Nice work.

    • http://letterstotwilight.com UnintendedChoice

      you rule. and you’re right. NO ONE’s romance is as perfect as anyone thinks it is. I have an amazing marriage. But it sucks a lot of the time too.

      • Anonymous

        LOL, no you rule for your post :) I was just adding my two cents. But that’s just it. First of all, no relationship is perfect. And second, this feeds into a bigger issue. People have this weird fascination with celebrities…and not that I expect that to change, nor do I want to be Debbie Downer, or take a holier-than-thou attitude, but there’s a point where it’s fun to discuss and chit chat and gossip a bit, and then there’s a point where it just becomes creepy and is a waste of time and space that could be used for other, more useful discussions and generally takes away from the important issues of the day. Like comparing and contrasting Red Riding Hood vs. Twilight movie. ;)

        • Moon

          STOP READING OUR MINDS!!! aka twi vs red riding hood

          • Anonymous

            I think the 2 years I’ve spent reading LTT has had an affect on me ;)

            Sorry – I just realized that you wrote the post not UC (I told her she ruled for the post; a minor under-caffeinated-related slip) YOU BOTH RULE!

    • http://letterstotwilight.com UnintendedChoice

      you rule. and you’re right. NO ONE’s romance is as perfect as anyone thinks it is. I have an amazing marriage. But it sucks a lot of the time too.

    • Moon

      wait this is how they really live? they dont fly off to monte carlo for weekends and frolic on yachts and talk about their future children?

      and this: “”repurposed” and “upcycled” clothes from Etsy” ahahahaha so true.

    • Tigerkitten36

      Operarose?

      Are you saying its….Not the mostest epic love story ever?

      Sad panda

      • operarose

        No I would not presume to actually state that outright. I just THINK it’s PROBABLY not…but I am human and may be wrong?

    • TeamSeth

      Just fully read this (and wow girl, 28 “likes”, and these days the “thumbs up” feature hasn’t gone awry, so they’re all valid!), and I gotta say, I absolutely LOVE the term “upcycle”. It’s the most relevant term to hipsters that ever existed. yay for clever people coming up with terms.

      • Bubs

        First “jorts”, now “upcycle”. You girls are soooo inventive !!!! I bet Steph. M. is having a giggle right now. I wonder if it will get a casual mention in her/Wyck “Dude” Godfrey’s, Breaking Dawn commentary [?].

        • operarose

          Can’t take credit for the upcycled – people really say that on etsy! It’s a pretty hipster term.

        • TeamSeth

          Well, jorts and upcycle were independently created then used by the LTT founders for enjoyable laughs and descriptive purposes. I just heard upcycle last Friday at happy hour in a mocking tone. (as in “Look at her upcycled dress. It wasn’t cool in the 80s, still isn’t cool now, sweetheart!” type of thing. And I think I read it on the knot or weddingbee. Anyway, it’s a fun buzz word. And I’m going to use it when I describe my ‘rustic’ wedding ideas to my mom ;) I’m having her save her spaghetti jars so we can upcycle them to use for the flowers and some candles. I’ll probably tie a ribbon around the mouth, just for good upcycling measure! :)

          And, I really really need coffee, cuz I just read yours and was like “Who is Wyck Godrey? Isn’t Bill Condon doing BD?” #Fail. (it then dawned (heh) on me)

  • allryans

    It’s so bizarre, right?
    All I ever hear or see are these reactionary posts – people complaining about the horrible things other people did, but never the horrible things themselves. And the bottom line is: IT DOESN’T MATTER (I think someone we know said that somewhere about something else …. I can’t think what at the moment; I’m clouded by dreams of the bear skin rug.)

  • 86 Rabbit

    I’ve gotten some pretty mean comments on my blog over the years. I admit it has taken the fun out of it for me. I continue to be amazed by the lengths people will go to to tell me I’m wrong for liking Twilight, for thinking Bella is a strong character, for thinking that there is value in these books, etc. Why are these people even on the interwebs looking at Twilight? Seems a bit like masochism if they hate it that much.

    I’ve been a fangirl my whole life. Star Wars, Anne Rice, Harry Potter…just to name a few of my obsessions. The shippers are always the most militant and inflammatory, but I’ve never seen anything on the scale of Twilight shipping. It seems like anytime you meet a fellow Twilighter you have to declare what side you’re on before you can talk about anything. Edward or Jacob. Robsten or Nonsten. It’s bizarre.

    Good for you for taking back the fun. Someone’s gotta do it.

    Rabbit

    • http://letterstotwilight.com UnintendedChoice

      LOVE YOU RABBIT!

    • http://letterstotwilight.com UnintendedChoice

      LOVE YOU RABBIT!

    • Moon

      oh hai there!!!! i like to see you commenting :) our very first commenter EVER.

      “I’ve never seen anything on the scale of Twilight shipping” THAT says something!

  • Chelle

    standing ovation and round of applause for this one. i’ve been on other sites (like E!) and have read some of the stuff that the crazies write and holy hale this stuff has wildly gotten out of hand and even I (who love twilight very much) am a bit embarrassed sometimes to be a part of the fandom because everyone is beginning to think that we are all bat shiz crazy like the small minority that blows up twitter, message boards, hacks into emails, etc.
    I fully endorse taking the fandom back to the fun days of bad hair pieces, buttcrack santa & little bottles.

  • Venom06

    Robsten shippers make up most of the Twilight fandom, Nonsten’s make up a very small group. Robsten shippers have pretty much screwed up the fandom with their obsession over Rob and Kristen relationship. This obsession is so severe that they will attack ANYBODY that doesn’t believe as they do, which is that Rob and Kristen are dating.

    For example, a Robsten shipper that was stalking a non-believers(doesnt believe Rob and Kristen are dating) twitter managed to figure out were this non-believer worked. The shipper emailed her job and told her boss about her online activities, that she was a Robert Pattinson fan, she didn’t like Kristen, that she was tweeting while on the job, in order to get her fired. The shipper didn’t succeed. But this Robsten shipper did this because this Twi-fan was a non-believer. Another ex. a shipper found out the home address of a non-believer and posted it over at the E! forum for everybody to see. Another ex. some Robsten shipper took some pictures of a non-believers children, from her twitpic account, and posted the pics on their own account and called her toddler children gay, that they were going to grow up gay and that karma was going to get them. Robsten shippers have also randomly attacked people on twitter that have nothing to do with the fandom just because they said they didn’t like what Kristen wore to the Oscars. I could go on and on and on.

    Robsten shippers attack anybody that doesn’t believe the same way they do, that Rob and Kristen are dating. You are not allowed to believe anything else, you are not allowed to have your own opinion about the relationship. Basically every single Rob, Kristen, Twilight fansite has been overrun by Robsten shippers and its become impossible to enjoy the movies, the books, the actors because shippers dont allow you to just say…. Personally, i dont think Rob and Kristen are dating. To them thats blasphemy.

    • Denise

      I believe both sides have ruined the fandom. Both sides have these types of stories and it’s just wrong all of it. I think their are just a couple of crazies that attack people personally and those people try to attack back and they attack another innocent person who had nothing to do with anything.it just works both ways both sides are wrong.

      • Venom06

        Nonsten was created by some Twifans that wanted to get away from all the shipping crap, and then it grew into a small group. I can tell you that no Nonsten has tried to get a Robsten shipper fired from their job because of what they believe, hunted down shippers home address & phone number and posted it on a public forum, verbally insulted other shippers children. Robsten shippers tried to get Nonsten forum shut down by bombarding the forum host with emails, the forum host had to tell them to stop, the shippers failed. Nonsten’s have never tried to get RobstenLove.com shut down, that would be stupid. Nonsten forum finally had to lock down the site because shippers were lurking around trying to get info on some of the members.

        Nonsten.com only has 335 members, RobstenLove has over 5000. Nonsten just wants to be left alone with their opinion but Robsten shippers cannot stand the thought that their are other people out there that dont believe the same way they do. Some idiot shipper even started a twitter account called @Nonstensux in order to tweet random insults and Nonsten members. One of the people that stirs up the hate toward Nonsten is @delaneyg84, the shippers follow every word she says. I know its not going to stop, shippers will keep on attacking anybody, in any way they can, that doesn’t believe Rob and Kristen are dating or says something they dont like about the individual actors

        SORRY FOR THE LONG POSTS FOLKS BUT IT FEELS GOOD TO GET THIS OUT :-)

        • TeamSeth

          and I just figured out that “shipping” didn’t involve UPS or FedEx.

        • dazzledtodeath

          You said it perfectly. R’stens are so dead-set on proving this PRmance that they stop at nothing when someone disagrees with them. If they’re so very sure of the epic love love why not shut up and bask in it, and leave the rest of us alone with our opinions?

        • Robjunkie

          I thought that we were advocating for neutrality here, not trying to defend one side against the other. As far as I’m concerned there is no defense for the appalling behaviour from either side. Using this post to defend nonsten is not cool. Also not cool: naming a particular individual. Geez, this has to stop!

          • Venom06

            It doesn’t matter, that particular individual I named, every single Robsten shipper on planet Earth knows about her. And I feel like I do have to defend nonsten because that appalling behavior comes from the Robstens. I see some people saying ‘lets take the fandom back’ bring back the fun. That will never happen as long as Robsten shippers attack everybody and their grandmothers that dont believe Rob and Kristen are dating.

        • http://letterstotwilight.com unintendedchoice

          Also interesting to note: ‘nonsten’ was a term first heard here (and we have never had anything to do with nonsten.com) history lesson!!!!

    • cosi bella

      *** ” Basically every single Rob, Kristen, Twilight fansite has been overrun by Robsten shippers” ***

      Well they should come on over to LTT then – cos I haven’t seen any of that stuff here (or behind the scenes is it ‘hard work’ keeping them out I wonder)

    • Moon

      theres craziness on all sides and exceptions to every rule. but man that email to the boss thing was so beyond the pale. WOW.

  • Cristine

    I don’t know anything about this “war” between people who believe Rob and Kristen are together or not…I thought it was kind of like “team Edward” or “team Jacob” and people just picked a side, but really, it doesn’t matter what side you are on b/c there is no right or wrong.

    Do I even want to know what FF stands for?

    • http://letterstotwilight.com UnintendedChoice

      Friends Forever
      no
      follow Friday
      no
      Fan Fiction!

      (this started out as an attempt at Funny things with the combo FF, but it was difficult & i got distracted at work. I fail. FREAKIN FAILURE!)

  • JustGoWithIt

    This sounds like serious business. And the first time in a while that I don’t understand half the stuff you posters are saying.
    I totally live vicariously through people I’ve never met. Guilty. But if I have reasonable doubt when it comes to them being the greatest lovers that ever loved. They are a young couple in Hollywood. It would be hard to actually believe that they are real life Bella and Edward. But it doesn’t hurt to imagine does it? I’m not doing any stalking, hacking, or harassing. Luckily I’ve got the same shielding powers as Bella, I’ve never met a single person or vampire that could read my mind.

  • Libby

    I haven’t comment in forever but I lurk all the time because I know this is a #normal #fun place to hang out… I’ve seen some drama with both sides and seriously I’m starting to believe there’s someone pushing “the war”.
    Moon, thank you for saying, as usual, what some of us think.
    We need a new “We are the rob” anthem, I think.
    have fun and tons of blessings for you girls.

    • Moon

      we are the roooobbbb we are the fandom….

      i need to find the video of us singing that at karaoke during NM week. blackmail!

      • Anonymous

        There is a video? Do share

  • http://twitter.com/masenvixen masen vixen

    Bravo. Love this post and you girls. – MasenVixen

    • Moon

      oh la la! hello there masen vixen! and thank you!

      • http://twitter.com/KatnissMJ Katniss Everdeen

        *shimmies* did you know I discovered FF through LTR? True story. Keep keeping the fandom fun, ladies. <3

    • TeamSeth

      You have a super great name! Clever with the play on Mason Dixon mingled with pre-vampire Eddie! LOVE IT! :)

  • Edible art?

    I like @simonpegg recent tweet

    “worse thing about the internet is that it has given every feckless D****head with fingers a platform for their opinion – well thats my opinion anyway”

    Ha ha there are some weirdos out there no doubt – I avoid them by only reading this blog. Where the occasional weirdo only provides material for the next few posts !!! It boggles my mind people would go to such lengths.

  • Ish

    Thank Meyer the only twittering I know about is done outside my window at 5am by little flying creatures. but whatever you are talking about totally agree and lets take the piss out of cathy again just for fun xx

    • TeamSeth

      It’s Nikki’s fault!

  • Ashlee Newton

    Finally someone said it! Thank God! The people who spend their time obsessing over Robsten bring the whole fandom down! They make us all seem like we’re completely crazy. Sure, it’d be cool if they were actually dating but come on! It doesn’t effect us whether or not they are. It’s about the books and movies not their personal lives.

  • chochang

    The Robsten/Nonsten war is FAKE. The whole thing is a silent war between Cathy and Nikki. Cathy leads the Robstens (of course) while Nikki hides behind countless twitters (like in that movie Catfish) to head the Nonstens. Nikki wants Rob back. And as for Cathy.. well, I don’t know what she’s up to.

    This is the whole truth. Obviously.

    • Anonymous

      I AM FEELING THE NEED TO CURSE AT YOU IN ALLCAPS NOW! For being totally right, that is. Or as least as right as anyone can be considering the top level spy-v-spy stuff that Summit is supporting.

      I have this weird image of a secret office at Summit HQ. You need to take a secret elevator to get there (of course, elevator is behind a bookcase) and enter a secret code (PROPHASE). In the bustling office is a full time staff who work on Robsten/Nonsten. They post random stuff on Twitter, create videos clips that don’t work, simulate fake catfights, make angry ALLCAP blog postings, the freaking works. Maybe Nikki and Cath are down there right now, trying to run counter-intel and attempting to infiltrate LTT. There will be a conference call at 9:30AM about this – call 1-800-BUTCRAK passcode is LEGHITCH (sshhhh – I hacked into Summit computers to find this out, don’t tell, just listen & learn the truth. It’s out there.)

      • http://twitter.com/debb24601 Debb

        This is all true… *nods solemnly*

        • chochang

          Yes oh yes I believe it is.

      • Moon

        you’re now officially on THE LIST natteringyearobber. good luck and god bless.

        • Anonymous

          Summit will just have to integrate me into their program since I know too much. That’s OK, once they give me the top secret elevator passcode I’ll work on getting Nikki to be BFFs with Cath. I’ll whisper to Cath that Nikki loves her bangs & can’t wait to see Red Riding Hood. I’ll whisper to Nikki that Cath really wanted her to be Bella, but found her to be too gorgeous for that role. I’ll corrupt the whole Plansten…there will be no leaders…just lovers…and new ultraviolet flowers will pop up all over the meadow….cue a rainbow…and Rob kissing me…the end.

          • TeamSeth

            Oh! This makes me hope that there are new flowers in the meadow during the closing scene of BD2 that are in the extra color that Bella had no name for!

          • chochang

            oh you funny lady

      • dazzledtodeath

        At this point I’ll believe anything.

      • nocoolname

        An apropos quote from Tool that I posted recently on LTR:

        “All you know about me is what I sold you.”

      • Anonymous

        I don’t think I can handle the truth.

    • TeamSeth

      <3 Can always count on chochang to keep it real!

      • ladyofthemeadow

        Maybe Lainey is behind all this.

    • Moon

      chochang – i was going to include a joke about how i hoped someday we’d find out this whole thing was actually run by a very bored nikki reed.

      then i forgot. thanks for reminding me!

      • chochang

        my pleasure :)

    • gizmo

      I could totally ship this.

    • chochang

      I may have figured what Cathy is up to. I thought about it and realized that Cathy just loves LOVE! And aside from creating, giving birth to and nurturing the Robsten, she LOVES the Robsten because, well, the Robsten=Magicness. And for Cathy, it’s like Magicness X a million. Like a whole year’s worth of Cougarita from TGIFridays.

      Also, I’m assuming she’s really into this whole “all the world needs is love, peace and magic” movement, in sort of a Bob Marley-ish Rastafarian way. I mean, why else would she braid her hair?

      Now I truly get it.

      • Anonymous

        OK, Chochang, if that is your real name. Admit it. You are CathyCoug, right? How else do you know so much? I always suspected, but this confirms it. All talking about yourself in third person….you have been REVEALED!

        OK, Cathy-Cho-Chang-Hardwicke, promoter of RastaRobsten….let’s all sing together:

        No Nonsten, no cry
        No Nonsten, no cry
        Little darlin’ don’t shed no tears
        No Nonsten, no cry

        Everything ‘s gonna be alright, everything ‘s gonna be alright, join me at TGIF for margaritas tonight….

        • TeamSeth

          I remember when we use to sit
          In my magical bed in Palm Springs.
          And then Robert would make the fire lights
          Bearskin rug, log would burnin’ through the nights
          Then we would cook vegan hot pocket(s)
          Of which I’ll share with you
          My fear was only of Hansen
          So I don’t go to The Pen
          Oh, while I’m gone
          No Nonsten, no cry.
          No Nonsten, no cry.

          • Anonymous

            “my fear was only of hansen…so i don’t go to the pen” – lol!

          • chochang

            omg RastaRobsten. someone photoshop this magicness quick!

        • chochang

          Shhh, let’s keep this under wraps for a while. So why don’t we head on over to the basement and I’ll have a truly magical tape to show you.. But first, let’s get you drunk.

          • Anonymous

            It would almost be worth the risk – not just to see the tape, but to discover who else Cathy (aka chochang) might have hidden in her (your) basement.

  • Itslapushbaby

    Haven’t been commenting in a bazillion years, but I never like to miss a chance to say that I have always been on the Team headed up by our dear HeeeeyBrother, “Team Calmthefuckdownsten.” I just like typing that word.

    I didn’t know that this stuff was going on, but getting involved in people’s RL stuff like jobs and addresses is pretty twisted. They should untwist their knickers, and just enjoy life more. Nothing is worth all that…..

    • cosi bella

      well I’m glad you commented today cos one of things that never fails to give me a giggle at LTT are the hilarious names you guys have thought up…yours …..”ItsLapushybaby” Love it!!

      T-shirt!!! (if it itsn’t one already) :))))))

  • Itslapushbaby

    Haven’t been commenting in a bazillion years, but I never like to miss a chance to say that I have always been on the Team headed up by our dear HeeeeyBrother, “Team Calmthefuckdownsten.” I just like typing that word.

    I didn’t know that this stuff was going on, but getting involved in people’s RL stuff like jobs and addresses is pretty twisted. They should untwist their knickers, and just enjoy life more. Nothing is worth all that…..

  • http://twitter.com/debb24601 Debb

    *throws confetti* Give me Twilight or give me death!!!!! *streaks naked* Take it back, I wanna talk about TWILIGHT and wedding rings that appear and disappear and Halloween lanterns on a honeymoon and Holy Fuck Edward’s not wearing the cuff in that scene?!?!??! *twirls*

    • Moon

      THESE are the things that matter

  • http://twitter.com/outofmytree Rebecca Bennett

    I am fully blowing a trumpet in the ‘I don’t give a crap-sten’ parade!

  • Anna121684

    This whole situation #notnormal

  • Anna121684

    This whole situation #notnormal

  • cosi bella

    Well i must have missed something at LTT cos I haven’t seen any Rob/kristen wars here. ????

    Who are these people? and why would they even care so much??

    But wherever this is happening – Sorry you’re having to deal with this sh*t UC and Moon.

    It’s true tho there are some crazy people out there. My friend was stalked by some person who she disagreed with in a forum (nothing to do with Twilight) and this person ended up calling her boss and dozens of staff members at the hospital she worked at!!! Yes folks this kind of stuff really does happen!

    Some people are just wackadoodles.

    • chochang

      What??!! I’m more surprised right now than when Edward found out that he and Beller were having a baby.

    • TeamSeth

      That’s creepy. That makes me want to stop going on the internet…

      • cosi bella

        and srsly – that’s why celebrities NEED their security guys.
        IMO it’s the type of crazees who are phoning people’s workplaces that’ll be the ones issuing serious threats to their beloved celebrities when they end up being “betrayed” by them (“betrayed” according to their sick fantasty world) IMHO most of these super extreme vengefel types have some sort of serious and diagnosable personality disorder.

    • Moon

      not us! thank god… just stuff we’ve been watching and reading and listening too

  • cosi bella

    Well i must have missed something at LTT cos I haven’t seen any Rob/kristen wars here. ????

    Who are these people? and why would they even care so much??

    But wherever this is happening – Sorry you’re having to deal with this sh*t UC and Moon.

    It’s true tho there are some crazy people out there. My friend was stalked by some person who she disagreed with in a forum (nothing to do with Twilight) and this person ended up calling her boss and dozens of staff members at the hospital she worked at!!! Yes folks this kind of stuff really does happen!

    Some people are just wackadoodles.

  • http://www.myrobertpattinson.com MyRobertPattinson.com

    ROBSTEN FOREVER!!!!!!!

    • http://www.myrobertpattinson.com MyRobertPattinson.com

      PS: “The Meyer” cracked my shizz up. Luv you guys.

      • http://letterstotwilight.com UnintendedChoice

        love you back

    • http://letterstotwilight.com UnintendedChoice

      excuse me!? This is NOT the Twilight facebook page. Please leave your Robsten Forever comments there with my own. We’ll take BIG DADDY FOREVER though. Always

      :)

  • Anonymous

    Darn it and I felt like arguing with people today again. Oh well….. This letter was very very #coo. I am glad we are taking it back. Maybe one day I will stop HATING Ron again.

    • Moon

      theres no thumbs down option here at ltt. this must make you sad

  • http://twitter.com/LucyJun3 L C

    preach it, sister. ya got my John Hancock.

  • TeamSeth

    I think it’s like politics (well American politics–I can’t really speak for other nations). You only hear about the super right wing or super left wing, never the middle. Why? Why doesn’t the middle say “Hey, we care too, we have beliefs and needs from our government too, and they don’t involve giving all our money to poor people or not giving any money to poor people… or really anything excessively radical at all. They draw on recognition that people have different needs and desires, because this nation is super ginormous and different parts were founded, discovered, and developed for different reasons by different mind-sets. And that’s okay. We see the need for compromise and hope of working towards a common goal that can achieve a majority satisfaction of government services. It’s like Goldie Locks and the Three Not Bears. We don’t want it too hot or too cold. We want it just right.” So, we aren’t loud about things, because we are the majority, so there’s just no need to be.

    I’m in the middle… a don’t give a crapsten(?) I am quiet because I’m in the majority of the people in the world/Twi-fandom, so there’s no need to “make my point”. If they want to hang in the Isle of Wight during the off season and take photos with that cute 12 y/o girl (remember how cute she was!!!), then great. I will be vacationing in a place I find slightly more exciting with better weather that isn’t exactly like my dreary rainy city. And I won’t be thinking about Rob and Kristen because I’ll be too busy enjoying works of Picasso, Dalí, and Miró and eating queso manchego with jamon serrano and melon mmm and tomatillo. I’ll be living my life, planning my wedding, writing my novel, looking for work in DC or NYC (or LA) (Anyone who knows of writing/editing or TV production jobs, that’d be an awesome help for the Seth family!) I’ll be watching Twilight on bus commutes home on my ipod touch that my sister so graciously gave me once she got an iphone and ipad. Or HP6 (she has both on there). Or at the gym working out so I can look super hot for my wedding day. These are real and important things for me, even if seen as trivial compared to helping starving people in Africa (or America, they’re here too) or working to ensure safe shelters are available for women who are victims of sex trafficking. But they’re still important to me, unlike a celebrity relationship that may not be. Who cares? I don’t care.

    (ps-NCN, you are so talented and I love your work so much and your book is just so wonderfully done and please please please keep it coming)

    Leaving Hyde Park now.

    • TeamSeth

      Not (my b, the coding changed with the disqus changeover.)

    • nocoolname

      Oh, TeamSeth, thank you for that. I have been trying to write ALL DAY with a two year old who has been clinging to my legs, a three year old who has inexplicably decided that going to the bathroom in the toilet is just no longer his thing, IthinkI’lljustgoinmypantsherethanyouverymuch, and a four year old who is obsessed with craft projects and needs more TAPE and PAPER and WHERE ARE THE SAFETY SCISSORS, MOM?? Dealing with all of that while trying to write a romantic and fulfilling E&B reunion on the deck of a British battleship with Venice in the background has been…challenging. So THANKS for the encouragement. I needed it.

      And I WILL get to your email soooooon…

      Also, Hyde Park reference – haha!!

      • TeamSeth

        No worries, anything for the creator of Lord Masen! :)

        Sorry about the potty training regression :( Very frustrating. And here’s another reason I shouldn’t be a mom… my response to four y/o would be “You wanna be a big kid so bad, go find the scissors yourself!”

        No rush on the email!

        • Anonymous

          In my book “”You wanna be a big kid so bad, go find the scissors yourself!” is a good mom response, for the most part. Besides, you’d be a bitchin’ Mom, reading Twilight to your pregnant belly, giving him/her an early start. A bad mom response would be like “I’m going to go frolick in the forest with your HAWT horny Dad, I don’t know where the scissors are, but your teeth look sharp, just do what your Dad did when you were being delivered and cut stuff with your teeth.”

          • TeamSeth

            When I first read this, I thought you were writing a book entitled “You wanna be a big kid so bad, go find the scissors yourself!” lol

          • Anonymous

            Actually, the working title to my sleep technique book is “Midnight Fun: How I learned to say no to my crying baby and yes to frolicking in the woods with my horny hung vampire husband in the middle of the night”

          • TeamSeth

            But they’re the only parents who don’t have to sleep but have a baby that does… I don’t even have kids and that part made me want to smack them, but I didn’t want to break my hand.

          • Anonymous

            I know, talk about total new parent advantage – NO need to sleep, it doesn’t get better than that. Though I’d miss having those weird sleep-deprived dreams I had when I was getting only 3 hours of sleep per night with a newborn. Those dreams were f’ing crazy, probably some of the best dreams I’ve had in my life….probably due to all the hormones.

          • MarbleNutSlut

            Yeah, I did sort of want to punch them in their marble nuts then, too. It was kinda fun being so sleep deprived it was like being drunk all the time. Oh wait no it most certainly was not.

            But my milk-stuffed boobs were HUGE! #cleavageFTW

          • natteringyeahrobber

            Yes, totally like being drunk, only not quite as fun. I remember watching Big Daddy when I was up one night with my first born kid. I was delirious and thought it was the funniest movie, ever. I composed an email recommending the movie to everyone I knew and sent it. This is what it is like to be “no sleep drunk.” My boobs were big but I was a leaker – so. not. sexy.

          • Tracitalynne

            America’s Funniest Home Videos. Hubs was all: WHO ARE YOU?! Kids make you stupid. :)

        • Anonymous

          In my book “”You wanna be a big kid so bad, go find the scissors yourself!” is a good mom response, for the most part. Besides, you’d be a bitchin’ Mom, reading Twilight to your pregnant belly, giving him/her an early start. A bad mom response would be like “I’m going to go frolick in the forest with your HAWT horny Dad, I don’t know where the scissors are, but your teeth look sharp, just do what your Dad did when you were being delivered and cut stuff with your teeth.”

        • Anonymous

          In my book “”You wanna be a big kid so bad, go find the scissors yourself!” is a good mom response, for the most part. Besides, you’d be a bitchin’ Mom, reading Twilight to your pregnant belly, giving him/her an early start. A bad mom response would be like “I’m going to go frolick in the forest with your HAWT horny Dad, I don’t know where the scissors are, but your teeth look sharp, just do what your Dad did when you were being delivered and cut stuff with your teeth.”

      • Anonymous

        I can’t wait!

    • Anonymous

      Tweed Serious two posts in a row? That Tweed jacket is suiting you nicely TS. :)

      • TeamSeth

        Aw shucks! (kicks ground like bashful) I do think I need to get it tailored though, it’s fitting weird around my waist. (er, well, that’s my actual RL tweed jacket I found in some vintage store–it’s soooo Portland lol It has this really neat orange piping and it’s like a brown/orange/white tweed.)

  • JodieO

    Sadly it DOES happen. I’ve gotten my own share of hate tweets for having the audacity to say something as inflammatory as “Meh, doesn’t look like they are kissing to me…” I deserve bamboo under my fingernails for that one! As soon as I tried to reason with them they all scattered like rats.

    I have seen twitters created for the sole purpose of hassling my friends, who although may be nonstens, don’t even sit around all day tweeting about Rob or Kristen.

    itisbecauseiam writes a tumblr about the insane stupidity that goes on within the fandom, so she gets lots of hate tweets. In a moment of delirium I tried to reason with one of the hate tweeters and tried to explain that most of us who are classed as nonstens really don’t give two fucks if Rob and Kristen ARE together and she told me quite emphatically that we DO care and that we KNOW they are together and that it burns, IT BURNS us and that’s why we are such mean old people. I managed to at least get her settled down, but she kept saying that anytime nonstens hate on the robstens that they are going to retaliate in kind. I tried to get her to give specific accounts of nonstens harassing robstens and got nowhere.

    SIGH. If only we could get everyone together and do a good old-fashioned Sharks and Jets dance off we could have this whole thing settled already!

  • http://twitter.com/hippietrixi Christine

    These were the thoughts I left on twitter the other day, and I still stand behind them.

    Jaysus god and Murphy. Do people not have anything better to do? RIDIC!

    Can’t we all just get along? We’re all here for the same purpose to either read, write, or ogle the pretty . If you can’t do that fuck off.

    Not trying to offend anyone here, but we all experience enough hatefulness in real life. This is supposed to be positive & a way to escape real life.

    If that’s all they’ve going for them, they’re pathetic.. Or lucky. Must live stress free lives.

    And I’m a I don’t give a fucksten. I don’t even know what the difference is and I am too lazy to figure it out.

    That is all carry on. xoxo.

  • Anonymous

    Dammint, Disqus won’t let me sign in.

    I either saw that Robsten was trending on Yahoo the other day or that it was a popular search on MSN. Other than that, I have no idea what the hale you are talking about. But given last year’s incident where UC’s NYC get-together group picture was defaced, I can imagine that whatever happened the past few days wasn’t pretty.
    It’s seriously degenerated to threats and harrassment? Really? REALLY?That people invest this much time and energy into something like this is incredibly unhealthy and just plain sad. I’m firmly don’tgiveacrapsten and now WTFsten.

  • http://twitter.com/K_needs_help Kristen

    Been forever since I’ve commented – RL’s been a bitch for about a year now. I purposely stay away from certain sites and crazy people. Life is too short to worry about anything less than #Leghitch and #fadetoblack. Let me oogle the Precious and go to my happy place.

  • Stacey

    First things first, Moon and UC, I adore you girls and I think this post is great and completely needed!

    Of all the major happenings that are going in the world today from anti-government uprisings, the deficit, the defunding of NPR to name a few things that some people are more concerned on attacking each other concerning a relationship between two actors (that is none of their business) amazes me.

    Seriously, who cares! All I care about is pretty pictures of Pattinson preferably without the gator.

    I wonder that perhaps the problem is that these people have put all interest in these actors and their films. That’s why I like to spread my interest around. Sam’s shirts are coming back this summer, Somerhalder will have new episodes in April and there is always my glorious Matt…I mean Glee. It’s alot easier not to obsess over one thing when you like LOTS of stuff.

    Here’s a fun plan, how about since spring is coming, all of these cranky Nonstens or Robstens put down their smart phones and leave their computers and have a picnic in a meadow. Enjoy nature and reread Twilight for the 50th time. See positive pursuits!

    Ohh and don’t get me started on that FF mess. :0)

    • TeamSeth

      OOH! That meadow picnic sounds so lovely! We have nice alpine meadows up here! I’m really going to put this into work… god, spring, HURRY SCURRY UP!

  • TeamSeth

    Okay, forget this robert sten crap, much more important:

    Potential unicorn discovery today! Guy in my workplace who is a contractor and new has admitted (to only me) that he’s seen all the Twi movies. He said they were “watchable and interesting.” and I assured him the books were more compelling. That the characters were more developed and that how the actors chose to portray them, along with the script, was not exactly how they are in the books. That they have more emotional depth and manifold attractions to one another. Okay, no, I didn’t use the term “manifold attractions” with the IT guy, that’d be weird! (said in Newton voice)

    Hooray unicorns! (okay, back to work now)

    • Stacey

      I really want to meet a real live unicorn! I should con…I mean talk my dad into reading Twilight. He would be so into it. I mean he read Outlander and loved that one. Hmm…I better get on this!

      • Anonymous

        Oh, I love the idea of a father-daughter Twilight discussion. My dad is a total bookworm and he reads just about anything. Maybe I should get him a copy for his birthday, then take him out for steak and ask if he has any questions. It couldn’t be any more awkward than the time I had to put makeup on him. That was awkward (he was in some community play…and asking me nonstop questions about eyeliner and blush…I’m still not over that awkwardness). I did NOT advise glitter foundation, though if he and his community theatre friends want to put on a Twilight production, I’m so going to glitterify everyone, including my Dad (he can be some ornery Grandpa vampire – maybe Aro’s Dad).

        • TeamSeth

          Um, you definitely need to get him reading… otherwise how will he be able to fully portray his character?!

          • natteringyeahrobber

            Yes. I’ll give Twilight to him. And my Dad can play a new part – as the one vampire in history who actually ages. So he can kvetch about it nonstop – complain about always being cold, rant about how Medicare discriminates against the undead, repeatedly say he gets no respect. Yes, a Rodney Dangerfield type grandpa vampire, who is the father of Aro.

          • TeamSeth

            No wonder Aro was such a jerk, stealing wives and all.

  • roslynselene

    Hmmm… well, I have nothing against “R’sten” (even if I think they’re weird together). It’s the shippers who I find highly annoying and creepy as fuck. I’d rather not read about what they imagine R’sten’s sex life is like in great detail in the comments section and “Oh EM GEE! THIS IS THE BEST COUPLE IN THE HISTORY OF COUPLES EVAR!”. It’s ridiculous and 2nd hand embarrassing. That’s why I only read comments here and LTR. That’s all I have to say. :)

    • JustGoWithIt

      Ah, I was reading your comment thinking “do I do that” (go into creepy detail about Robsten’s possibly great sex life), then I read the end. No, I don’t do that. Though I won’t discount the idea that my thoughts border on creepy. Really though I don’t know, they are barbies with no naughty bits in my mind, I’m not thinking of the that kind of detail. More like they sit on a porch together sipping lemonade talking about what their grandchildren are like….oh, just got creepy, didn’t I?

      • roslynselene

        Haha that’s more like Edward and Bella than Rob and Kristen (re: they sit on a porch together sipping lemonade talking about what their grandchildren are like). If I imagine what Robsten’s life it like, I would imagine Moon’s “Palatial Pad” fic. LMAO No, I can’t even imagine.

        • JustGoWithIt

          Since I’ve never seen Robsten’s private off camera moments, I can’t separate them from Edward and Bella in my mind. The only time I see them together they are at most hand holding and giving each other loving glances/making each other laugh, they are playing into my fantasy. I think the most intimate thing I’ve seen them do on film is the old interview in which Kristen picks something out of Rob’s teeth for him.

          • MarbleNutSlut

            So glad I didn’t see any teeth picking…ew. But kind of funny.

            Let’s be clear: we are talking about ACTORS. The 2 of them are: in their 20s (slutty), ACTORS (slutty), and super hot (oh please be slutty). Even the drama geeks in high school were bumping uglies all over the place. It’s what they do, and bless ‘em. I still like the idea of the SummitHQ. I wonder if they need a new twitter monkey…

          • TeamSeth

            It reminds me of that South Park episode when they go to the Family Guy production studio and there’s all the “idea ball” manatees! Maybe they use manatees to figure out which playah hatah attacks they’re going to use?!

          • JustGoWithIt

            Okay, okay, fine, they are probably a couple of young hot sluts. It’s not that I don’t think they do it, I just don’t so much care to think about that part. I like the we’re the real life Bella and Edward with just a little bit of a different story (okay totally different).

  • purplescool

    I had no idea people talk about this, but then I don’t tweet and only log on to FaceBook every few months. And I haven’t read most of the posts today, so sorry if someone already said this, but I have a “conspiracy theory” that Summit fuels some of this. They may not necessarily have conceived of it as a PR marketing tactic like they did with the whole “Team Edward/Team Jacob” thing, but I think they latched onto it and that some poor intern over at Summit has to troll the internet and write comments/twits/tweets, blogs, whatever about this stuff. Think about it – this would be PR gold for Summit – fan interest in their stars’ lives translates into fan interest in the movie and movie-related merchandise.

    • TeamSeth

      Can you imagine that being your internship? I mean, all of your day spent talking about Twilight cast members and the nuances involved! Wait…

  • Robjunkie

    I’m back out of lurkdom, just had to comment on this post as this particular issue has been bothering me for a while. Back when this whole nonsten thing started, it was all very tongue in cheek. Like, OMG why does he want her, he should totally be with meeee!! You know, normal. And for a while it was fun to mock the awkwardness and the magicness. But then the crazies swooped in and the rabid hate started. It became quite disturbing actually. There are some really twisted sisters and misters in this fandom. I think it’s really great that you guys are speaking out against it, and in such a rational way. Sigh, never change LTT and LTR!

    • JustGoWithIt

      Twisted sisters and misters! Yey! (for the saying not the crazies)

    • http://letterstotwilight.com unintendedchoice

      Yes!!!!!!! To all!!!! Yessssss

  • http://twitter.com/AmberRMW Amber

    Think we can organize our own Rally to Restore Twi-sanity? There are about a million great one-liners that CLEARLY need to become posters.

    • roslynselene

      Haha! You can be Jon Stewart and lead it. :) The crazies can do the “March to keep fear alive” thing. Lol

  • Anonymous

    All my Twiworld-education comes from LTT. I am to lazy (or care) to look elsewhere. Like Ambella, I don’t tweet and rarely do FB.

    • natteringyeahrobber

      The other Twilight sites are scary, like all with 1999 layouts and black backgrounds and dripping red font title text. I came here because the beige background is so much more soothing & matches my office decor. Plus, oh yah , everyone is hilarious!

      p.s. no one ever responds to my Twilight posts on FB. Never. So sad.

      • Anonymous

        I would respond to your twi posts on FB, just sayin! Not crazy stalker, just Normal friend!

  • Anonymous

    Forget Robsten cause I don’t give a.crapsten

    I’m Belward ;)
    ’cause Belcob sounds kind of like a bodily function. Like belch/hiccup. Hahaha

    • Stacey

      Lady…you crack me up! And I owe you an email. I owe lots of people emails. Sigh.

      • Anonymous

        I am here to provide comedic relief. ;)

        Yes, you do owe me an email, dang it. :D It’s okay. I’m sure I’ve taken longer to reply to people. Which reminds me, I should see what email replies I have outstanding…

    • TeamSeth

      There you are! Belcob… Jacla sounds like jackal or a female name… What about Belke? Like that department store!

      • Anonymous

        Nooooo, not Bella. After last post I may be Angelcob or maybe Jescob

        • TeamSeth

          Jacela!!!!

          • Anonymous

            Who am I kidding, I’ll always be GirlInTheParcob.

          • TeamSeth

            That took me a while, but I got it. and LOVED it. I always imagine that park to be the one near Pike Place when I had my frappuccino from the original starbucks (cuz it has no seating) back in 2007. Even though it’s not really a park, just a grassy patch by the boardwalk. And there’s not really anywhere to park nearby. So, it actually doesn’t work at all. But… that’s the only park-like thing I’ve gone to in Seattle, so, yeah.

      • Anonymous

        How about about; “Bellercob”?

        It makes me smile. I think, “Beller is alive!” And, “Buttercup” at the same time. :)

        • Anonymous

          A delicious buttery corn cob. Though if I think about this beyond my initial innocent little thought I may vomit up my bile duct!

  • Anonymous

    CONFESSION: i feed into all this mess. not directly per se. i don’t have a side, other than i think they are both each other’s beards and one glorious day it will come out that Ron and Tom share THE magical love of the century. But I digress…

    I contribute to this mess by searching out the tweets. creeping on blogs and tumblrs. reading the crazy. and then laughing about it and texting it to friends.

    i shouldn’t do this. i shouldn’t help perpetuate this mess. i have friends on both sides of this “conflict” (ps– i just barfed that i called it a “conflict’) and i see stuff in my timeline from both and i. just. can’t. help. it. it’s like that loose tooth that hurts like a mofo but you STILL play with it anyways just to get that jolt of maddening pain. UGH. i hate my own face right now.

    but we’re all in the #trusttree together no? maybe this is what i will give up for lent. creeping on the ‘Stens. Along with meat. And french fries.

    phew. i feel better now. thanks for this post so i could word vomit my secret to you all!

    • roslynselene

      Don’t worry. Sometimes when I’m bored, I read itsbecauseiam’s twitter/tumblr. I like her. She’s hilar and I like to laugh at the crazies on twitter. They amuse me and it’s all cheap fun. :) But I NEVER talk to them or argue. No no no. It’s not that serious.

    • operarose

      Yeah but what separates you from the craziness is the fact that you have a little something called… perspective.

    • http://letterstotwilight.com unintendedchoice

      Us too!!!! It’s so addicting to watch!!!!

  • Anonymous

    The LTT shop seriously needs “Don’t Give a Crapsten” shirts!

  • Anonymous

    Both “sides” just need to unclench and remove the sticks from their hind ends. And do something that may relax them. So, get laid or have a cup of tea.

    • TeamSeth

      Or both! Oh man, I really wanna go make some chai rooibos now with a splash of vanilla soy milk. Thankfully it’s 20 til COB and I can hop on that bus and put the kettle on! Life doesn’t get better than hot chai on a dreary Forks weather day applying for jobs. Okay, delete that last part, I was letting reality slip into my excitement…

      ps, did you change your picture?

      • Anonymous

        Why yes, I did. It is now a picture of…Lee Pace. What a surprise. ;)

        • TeamSeth

          Quite a surprise… it totally looks like Rob still when it’s in really little size… there’s that pic of him pushing his hair back (you know the one, there’s probably like 20,000 actually but no matter)

          • Anonymous

            Well, I zoomed it in, so hopefully now it can be seen that it is not Rob. Because, Rob is okay and all, but this is Lee Pace – and he deserves adoration respect, bitches!

          • TeamSeth

            I saw the “zoom in” before seeing this comment and I was like “Oh, she knows what’s up!” hehehe ;) Ironically, my coworker was in here earlier talking about how his wife was watching Pushing Daisies last night to entertain herself during insomnia. I thought of you (naturally).

        • TeamSeth

          Quite a surprise… it totally looks like Rob still when it’s in really little size… there’s that pic of him pushing his hair back (you know the one, there’s probably like 20,000 actually but no matter)

  • Anonymous

    Fight? Why am I always in the toilet or library when someone yells fight. Maybe I missed all of this because I’m a Jacob/Taylor lover, Big Daddy seems to keep everything well in hand.

  • Anonymous

    Can I join the picnic in the meadow? If we invite Rob he might bring his guitar and we can call him Maria.

    • JustGoWithIt

      Claudia.

    • TeamSeth

      Chupa la sangre Maria?

      • Anonymous

        Ermm…’Qwil clout lay loca’

        • TeamSeth

          Oh, I was just trying to clarify which Maria…

          • Anonymous

            Ohhhh, Well, there can be only one. So get your lederhosen on.

          • TeamSeth

            OH! That Maria!!!!!!

          • Anonymous

            Wish I had purple curtains *drags out sewing machine*

          • TeamSeth

            Oh, you show off with your sewing skills. Hrmph.

          • Anonymous

            Am planning hip headscarves for all

          • TeamSeth

            OH! That Maria!!!!!!

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