Twilosophy: Is any guy ever an “Edward?” or are they all “Jacobs?”

Dear LTT-ers and Twilosophy majors,

For the last few years since we’ve started LTT and LTR and since reading the books, podcasting with the guys and whatnot I’ve had this thought roaming around my twi-addled brain but never felt ready to tackle it… then recently both Chris Weitz and Stephenie Meyer spoke about the very thing I had been wondering… are there really any “Edwards” out there or are they all actually “Jacobs?”

Recently, a Christ Weitz follower tweeted him asking if he was Team Jacob or Team Edward and this was his response:

This guy's a "jacob?" *swoon*

I am a Jacob. So that has to be my team, by default. Except really, honestly, I’m team Bella.
@chrisweitz
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First I loved him more because he self identifies as a “Jacob” but it got me to thinking since most guys I know have said they’re a “Jacob” and most ladies say they married a “Jacob” IS ANYONE ever an Edward? Has any guy self identified as an “Edward?” And has anyone every really gotten their “Edward?” An “Edward” being the seemingly unattainable, hot, sorta-pretty-much perfect guy who you think would never give you the time of day.

Yup, definitely a Jacob

After being in this “world” for many years I would say that a majority of married Twilight lovers would say they married their “Jacob.” Many of our fellow bloggers and even Stephenie herself has said this. She mentioned that marrying Pancho was like marrying her Jacob.  Stephenie also had this to say about Rob and Taylor in her recent interview with USA Today…

On working with Pattinson and Lautner: “Rob is more like Jacob than Edward. He’s goofy, he’s funny, he doesn’t take much seriously. But he can turn Edward on like that (she snaps her fingers) when he needs to be Edward. Taylor’s who we hang out with most. He’s a lot like fun, happy Jacob.” – Stephenie Meyer in USA Today

Wait, this guys a Jacob??

It’s ok, Rob/Edward fans, you can peel yourself off the floor now and let’s come to terms with the fact that Rob is not and never was Edward. Not that UC and I ever thought that because we’ve pretty much pegged him as a super nerd from day one yet it keeps bringing up the question: If these guys are all “Jacobs” then are all men out there really Jacobs? Or can some of them beEdwards and then become Jacobs?

Furthermore (oh big transitional words!) if most guys end up being Jacobs than what does that say about the Twilight story and Bella and Edward’s relationship? Is it really the stuff of fantasy because there are no “Edwards” in real life? And if that’s true have we finally found the reason why Twilight is so popular, because it’s a fantasy in every sense of the word?

That's a whole lotta Jacobs right there

So do I have an Edward to look forward to or should I just stop ignoring the Jacobs of my life and realize that though he may not sparkle he’s pretty darn fabulous and he might also be able to fix that weird squeaky sound my cars been making.

Here’s to the Jacobs!
Themoonisdown

Thoughts? Who’s married/dated/engaged to their Jacob? Do you think any guy is every REALLY an Edward? Are all men Jacobs at the end of the day?

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  • fang.

    Edward? Jacob? I started dating my Ron Weasley 7 and 1/2 years ago and never looked back.

    • Brenn

      Edward? Jacob? I married Mike Newton and had 3 cute Newtonettes.

      • MariaCecilia

        Ever thought about starting a vocal group? Brenn and the Newtonettes sounds real good!

  • fang.

    Edward? Jacob? I started dating my Ron Weasley 7 and 1/2 years ago and never looked back.

  • Hallfamily54321

    Well, I am not sure of the exact definition…but in my mind my husband is Edward. I think that is why I love the story so much. From the first time I met him, it was a done, signed deal. I am very thankful for him and feel very lucky to have someone like him!

  • Hallfamily54321

    Well, I am not sure of the exact definition…but in my mind my husband is Edward. I think that is why I love the story so much. From the first time I met him, it was a done, signed deal. I am very thankful for him and feel very lucky to have someone like him!

  • Ish

    Some of my best friends growing up, were guys. Never had the urge to snog them or whatever, we hung out did all the stuff that mates did and although most girls thought them hot I knew them too long too well to see them differently. On the other hand my “Edwards” may not have been sparkly immortals but there was definately a BANG, palpitations, sweaty palms, nervous giggling and a sexual attraction that was not there with the Jacobs. Thats why in the book I never really got Bellas obsession with J. My husband is perhaps more like Aro naaaaaaaaa just joking I probably got Carlislie.

    • MariaCecilia

      So you got the balanced, compassionate version of Edward? Way to go – AND you get to play doctor! Lucky you…

      • Ish

        yay midnight_Cyn haven’t heard from you for ages. great to see you again. @ MariaCecilia I was more meaning the lovely nerdy type :-)

  • Anonymous

    Something available by the masses is not going to deemed as valuable as a rarity. Plus he’s something that is supposed to be out of reach and forbidden. And while he’s “bad,” he’s wonderful. I think that is a big reason people are so fanatical about Edward.

    Me? I married a Jacob. Tall, dark, handsome (aka: “kind of beautiful”), fun, funny, laid back, mechanically inclined, put up with me when I didn’t deserve it, he wa a friend first and in and on… Except he never did change into a werewolf… He has Edward moments, but he’s a Jacob.

    • TeamSeth

      So, you married a Jacob with a little bit of middle name of Edward?

      • Anonymous

        Haha!

        I guess that’s true. He is just as his name suggests. :) And if he would have been named in the other order, Edward Jacob, instead, I guess I would expect that he’d be an Edward more so.

      • Anonymous

        Haha!

        I guess that’s true. He is just as his name suggests. :) And if he would have been named in the other order, Edward Jacob, instead, I guess I would expect that he’d be an Edward more so.

  • Laurel

    Hmmm. Here’s the thing: finding a guy who is insanely attractive but not spoiled by having lived the life of priviliged treatment those kind of looks bring is rare. Finding a guy with unlimited wealth is rare. Finding a guy with a genuine aura of mystery (that doesn’t ultimately end up being a smokescreen for the fact he’s 30 and lives in his parents’ basement working on his cheeto sculptures) is rare. Finding a guy who is solely, perminently and ferociously attracted and committed to you and only you is rare. Finding all of those things in one person… Honestly, you’ve got better odds of bumping into a real vampire riding on a unicorn and holding the head of a leprachuan. And that’s without any of the supernatural frosting on top of that Edward cupcake. On the plus side, neither of my childbirth experiences ended with my baby shattering me from the inside out, so that’s a solid win for those of use who married a mere mortal, right?

    • Anonymous

      You said it! A real Edward just can’t exist.

    • purplescool

      True! Soooooo funny too – and now that I’ve stopped laughing from your comment, I have to say that I agree. Truly, most men who are devastatingly gorgeous, mysterious, sensitive, intelligent, caring, protective, wealthy, and powerful (no to mention good-smelling with no human bodily functions to worry about, ever) do not usually live the life of a monk.

      And while I love my hubby and do think he smells good – even he gets morning breath.

    • Anonymous

      Mmm Edward Cupcake….

      • sweetinator88

        somebody should make some Edward themed cupcakes
        mmmmm

        • Anonymous

          Or a long john donut with a sparkly cream center…

          • sweetinator88

            HAHAH oh man

          • Bubs

            Yummmm.

    • MariaCecilia

      Yes, in real life the unbelievably handsome men are not usually intelligent, caring and committed. The rare good-looking “bad” guys you run across are for the most part versions of the common variety of Douchebag. So your advice is I should probably keep looking for a vampire, right?

    • TeamSeth

      I wish I could thumbs up this more. When I finished the post, this was exactly what I thought (okay, I didn’t think about a severed leprechaun head). To echo TOO, a real Edward just can’t exist.

      But to be honest, who would actually want one? It would only make you feel epically flawed and pathetic.

  • Greenleafgirl

    My HS boyfriend was an Edward. Smart, bought me expensive baubles, overthought everything, controlled all, very mushy & loving, would never hurt me, etc.
    I dumped him & later married a Jacob. I love him even in all his goofy, ball scratching glory.

  • natteringyeahrobber

    Jacob is who you want to date. Edward is who you want to have a 1 night stand with. And Chris Weitz, he’s who you marry.

    I think I’m pretty much married to Chris, minus the Twitter account, Hollywood connections, Twi-knowledge and high paying salary. I guess part of the reason I love Chris is he is more or less my DH. And the reason I love DH is because if I have a few drinks and close my eyes, he’s Chris. (just kidding DH! mostly.)

    • TeamSeth

      anime?

      • TeamSeth

        Or that was intended to be in reply to Nelle. #fail

  • Nelle

    Anyone ever wonder who the female literary equivalent of Edward is? (It’s certainly not Bella.) Is there one? Do men have a female literary character of perfection? Or would they have to be an Edward to even think that way?

    • Ambella

      princess Leia? wait , that’s a movie…..

      • Operarose

        Oh, good one. This question stumped me yesterday but I second Leia, literary or not…

    • MariaCecilia

      I think you got it right there: most men would have to be an Edward to be able to think of a female literary character as their ideal. Heck, lots of the men I know don’t even read fiction! Book stores and libraries are kept going by people like us: women of all ages.

    • Anonymous

      Hmmm. In all the (limited and non-specific) examples I can think of, where the story line is guy chooses between two girls, he usually goes with the less-perfect, initially unattractive one with a ‘great personality’ because the immediate draw, super hot girl turns out to be superficial and a beeeyotch.

    • Secretvampire73

      Good question! I don’t think there is one….or maybe, i just wanna blv he’s unique.

  • superhumanmoron

    I don’t think anyone wants to admit to being an Edward. Because basically they would be saying they are the perfect man and the object of every woman’s fantasy, and therefore they would be a huge douchecopter.

  • Anonymous

    Mr. E is mostly a Jacob, but with protector and caregiver(?) side of Edward. He is mister responsible, but still makes me laugh, even when being a pain in my ars.

  • blackgirltwihard

    I had my Edward for a year, and he actually he sort of left to protect me. He wasn’t off crushing cellphones in Italy, my Edward was off acquiescing to the Tanyas of the world the many, many many, Tanyas; he just could not be monogamous. Enter my Jacob & we stayed together for seven years. We broke up due to something related to my Edward (read: a 1 night stand with my Edward). I eventually married someone who in hindsight reminded me of my original Edward – 10 years later we are divorcing..and currently, me and my Jacob are sometimes DTF each other.

    *I think my life is the slutty version of Twilight.*

    Moral of my story: I SHOULD have married my Jacob. Realistically, most Edwards (athletic, money, gorgeous, anatomically blessed) of the world know they are in high demand.

  • Sue G.

    I’m married to a Jacob…tall, dark hair, funny, lovable and handy! I think Edward is the type of person you fantasize about, but you don’t marry. After all, who wants perfect? Then you’d never get the chance at having makeup sex!

  • tiffanized

    I don’t believe in Edwards, because when you meet one you think is an Edward they always turn out to be fakers. I barely believe in Jacobs . . . I’d love to meet a Jacob. I’ve had nothing but Mikes and Erics, and maybe a Mr. Berty.

    • Anonymous

      tiffanized! Where ya been, girl?

    • MariaCecilia

      Hm, I’m beginning to think that maybe “Edward” and “Jacob” is mostly in the eye of the beholder…

    • Anonymous

      THEY are out there..TRUST..they just can’t maintain the facade long enough besides would any of us really WANT an Edward? Nevermind of course we would.. keep looking there are still some wonderful guys out there for someone as special as you! :)

  • Operarose

    My husband actually enjoys going to see the movies with me (I know, shock, right? Though he only ever sees them once) partly, because he says he identifies with Jacob so much. I would definitely consider him a Jacob.nso add me to the list of girls who loved Edward in the books but married a Jacob.

    Alright, let me get my Tweed and my glasses on, because I’m going tweed-serious to try to crack this issue. My theory is that throughout the series we see Edward from Bella’s highly biased point of view. He is, on his own, not the perfect man. He is troubled, controlling, compulsive, and socially awkward (I mean, come on. He thinks it’s ok to stare at Bella while she sleeps and has, by choice, remained a monk when it comes to romance for 100 years. Not normal.) but from a 17 year old girl who is infatuated with him point of view, these odd character traits only add to his allure. In the course of the series, it’s not Edward’s perfections or imperfections that matter. It’s the fact that we see him through the eyes of a girl who is desperately in love with him.

    I believe there are many Edwards out there and we may in fact have met our own Edwards in our past. But, and here is where i think a lot of the success in the series lies, we often didn’t end up with that “Edward” own lives. Edward is the guy who we’ve met who we fell for at first sight. He’s the guy that we desperately wanted to make things work with but couldnt. He’s the first crush or first love that went unrequited. He’s the perfect guy with the fatal flaw that couldn’t be overcome.

    And while we all went on to meet our perfect guys who were funny and had only flaws that we could live with, who returned our love wholeheartedly, who were “what was right” for us instead of what we wanted to be right, who were down to earth and loving, who worked, Bella said, “screw it.” and she did the unthinkable and made it work with the elusive Edward.

  • Late Convert

    after years of dating Jacobs and putting up with my mother looking aghast when I left them, I married an Edward. Seemed risky at the time but he was the kindest person I’d ever met. Occasionally he drives me completely an utterly insane, but it was the right decision!

  • Hallfamily54321

    I love all the different interpretations of what being an Edward is.

  • operarose

    (I wrote a response and it doesn’t appear to be showing up, so if this posts twice my apologies in advance! It might be because I’m having a hard time staying logged in on Disqus.)

    First of all, add me to the list of girls who loved Edward in the books yet married Jacob. My husband even proclaimed himself “Jacob” after seeing New Moon.

    With that said, let me get my Tweed and my glasses on, because I’m going Tweed-Serious to try to crack this issue. My theory is that, throughout the series, we see Edward from Bella’s (highly biased) point of view. He is, on his own, not the perfect man. He is troubled, controlling, compulsive and socially awkward ( mean, come on. He thinks it’s ok to stare at Bella while she sleeps and has, by choice, remained a monk when it comes to romance for 100 years. Not normal.) but from the point of view of a 17 year old girl who is infatuated with him, these odd character traits only add to his allure. Over the course of the series, it’s not Edward’s perfections or imperfections that matter. It’s the fact that we see him through the eyes of a girl who is desperately in love with him.

    I believe there are many Edwards out there and we may in fact have met our own Edwards in our past. But, and here is where I think a lot of the success in the series lies, we often didn’t end up with that “Edward” in our own lives. Edward is the guy who we’ve met and fell for at first sight. He’s the guy who we desperately wanted to make things work with but couldn’t. He’s the first crush or first love that went unrequited. He’s the perfect guy with the fatal flaw that couldn’t be overcome. (etc.)

    And while we all went on to meet our perfect guys who were funny and only had the flaws that we could live with, who returned our love wholeheartedly, who were “what was good” for us instead of what we wanted to be good, who were down to earth and loving, who worked for us, Bella said, “screw it.” And she did the unthinkable and made it work with the elusive Edward.

    • Anonymous

      As usual Opera..PERFECT!! Thanks for “pulling an Edward on me” reading my mind then writing what I would have said!! HUGS!

      • Anonymous

        Hey, there Cyn, how are you and why haven’t we heard from you in a while?

        • Anonymous

          Trying VERY hard to STAY back lol..I downloaded the IE 9 and it at least appears to work better. Although it took me all this time to get back on to reply :(…I have missed you all so much…been very lonely without my friends here….but I haven’t even been able to load the page until yesterday…
          Off topic: I am proud to announce that in my absence I have become the proud “grandma” to 3 beautiful puppies all boys (still have no names though ;( )..they are adorable..we had 4 but lost the only little girl that we had named Isabelle..not for the reasons your all thinking..(okay well maybe alittle) :)…
          Back on topic: I too love the comments and the post!! I had an Edward once..and that was his real name…he was perfect (but aren’t they all when we only remember the good things) for me I think that is one of the many reasons I LOVE Twilight..the Possibility of it all..the Inperfect love that we “create” to be PERFECT! Ahhh LOVE…

          • Anonymous

            Welcome back Cyn

          • Anonymous

            THANKS..So good to be back!! Now I just to have to catch up and get “back into the swing of things” here!!!

          • Anonymous

            THANKS..So good to be back!! Now I just to have to catch up and get “back into the swing of things” here!!!

          • Anonymous

            Welcome back Cyn

      • Anonymous

        Good to see you Cyn! :D

    • Anonymous

      YES. This! I have always been Team Unreliable Narrator for the series. How many times do they each have to say “you don’t see yourself clearly” or “you don’t see me clearly”?

      Edward is the first crush, that sick to your stomach eyes crossing UhMuhGuh-ness. Edward is the beginning of a relationship, and what you hope to have as a thread throughout your relationship, but full on Edward is unsustainable without both of you going nuts. Because unless your Edward actually is undead, that dude is going to fart in your house and generally be a stinky, messy, human boy. Which is fine because we are all stinky, messy, human girls, and it would be awful to have to fart and not want to because that hot guy totally doesn’t fart ever. That would really suck.

      Oh man do I ever have more to say about this, but I gotta go right now. Be back for more Tweed Serious in a bit!

      • Anonymous

        “Team unreliable narrator” = perfect! Well said.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, what good is a vamp with a keen sense of smell if you have morning breath.

      • Anonymous

        Yeah, what good is a vamp with a keen sense of smell if you have morning breath.

      • TeamSeth

        It would totally suck to have to hold in farts. This is true. And it might end up causing completely unnecessary and painful medical issues over time. No one’s Edward-ness is going to be able to cure that!

    • Anonymous

      YES. This! I have always been Team Unreliable Narrator for the series. How many times do they each have to say “you don’t see yourself clearly” or “you don’t see me clearly”?

      Edward is the first crush, that sick to your stomach eyes crossing UhMuhGuh-ness. Edward is the beginning of a relationship, and what you hope to have as a thread throughout your relationship, but full on Edward is unsustainable without both of you going nuts. Because unless your Edward actually is undead, that dude is going to fart in your house and generally be a stinky, messy, human boy. Which is fine because we are all stinky, messy, human girls, and it would be awful to have to fart and not want to because that hot guy totally doesn’t fart ever. That would really suck.

      Oh man do I ever have more to say about this, but I gotta go right now. Be back for more Tweed Serious in a bit!

    • Latersbaby

      Excellent. I think it is important that many of our Edwards are men from the past. In our memory, they are so much better than the reality they once were.

      • MariaCecilia

        I’ve been thinking about the past and my memory disagrees with you. I don’t want to call my first heartbreaking love an “Edward”, because while he was beautiful with chiseled cheekbones and seemed mysterious and unattainable, he was also completely selfish and a huge slut. Looking back I can’t understand why I crushed on him for so long and certainly can’t idolize him as perfect, but while it was going on I was experiencing all of the Bella-crushing-on-Edward symptoms. Love is weird.

        • Anonymous

          I suppose to have a proper conversation about this we would have to define “Edward” and “Jacob”. For me, “Edward” is the crazy, unhealthy, crushing on the hot guy feeling, and Bells is simply lucky that Edward happened to not be selfish and slutty, and came to grow and get over his overprotectiveness and self-hatred. Otherwise you would have to go for Jacob just to maintain sanity.

          E & B are the first, hormone-fueled nuttiness of love. Most of us have that, and then most of us get our heart dashed to the floor several times over, and have to come to grips with the fact that Love, with a capitol L, is most definitely weird and not always “eternity”. It’s still love, most of the time, but it seems it’s elusive. Coming up on our 10th annivesary, Mr. Slut is mega-hotness, and kinda mysterious and often jerk-y (not controlling, though, because I would punch him). He has never snuck into my room to watch me sleep, but then again we share sleeping quarters so maybe that is not a fair comparison. Totally worth it, but it’s a lot of fucking work to be in a long term relationship.

          Unless you have a perfectly symbiotic codependent relationship and/or an entire extended family to watch after your Death Baby while you shag.

          I’ve had a few drinks; what exactly were we talking about?

          • MariaCecilia

            Thanks for trying to clear things up! That’s one of the things I love about LTT, how tweed serious people can get here, in between drunken outbursts about non-consequential things we love and hate…<3 you!

          • MariaCecilia

            Thanks for trying to clear things up! That’s one of the things I love about LTT, how tweed serious people can get here, in between drunken outbursts about non-consequential things we love and hate…<3 you!

    • Bubs

      “But from the point of view of a 17 year old who is infatuated with him…” EXACTLY. This is why we need Midnight Sun finished !!!!! There is so much still to discuss…..

      • Operarose

        This is one of those times when I hope stephenie is reading our comments carefully!

    • http://twitter.com/secretvampire73 anonymous

      That was brilliant!

  • Ambella

    Married to a “Jacob” who has his ” Edward moments”. and that’s fine by me.

  • Stacey

    Happily married to an Edward. You really can’t beat sensitive, neat, helpful, nice eye for detail and an enjoyment of fine automobiles. Only difference, he doesn’t do any creepster stuff. Ohh…and our children haven’t been imprinted on by a dog. So good stuff all around.

  • Stacey

    Happily married to an Edward. You really can’t beat sensitive, neat, helpful, nice eye for detail and an enjoyment of fine automobiles. Only difference, he doesn’t do any creepster stuff. Ohh…and our children haven’t been imprinted on by a dog. So good stuff all around.

  • The Plane Friend

    I think I’m married to a guy who’s as close to an Edward as you can get in real life, with a smattering of Jacob traits thrown in. And for as perfect as he is (for me, I think there are lots of people who wouldn’t think he’s as amazing as I do), he’s nowhere near as romantic as my fantasy vampire crush.

    I agree w/ operarose. Edward seems so perfect because we see him through Bella’s eyes… and because we were so in love with him by the time we read the Midnight Sun manuscript that we weren’t creeped out by someone who stalks his beloved, vacillates between murdering and marrying her, and is such a know-it-all. I don’t know if we would have thought Edward was so perfect if we’d seen him through someone else’s eyes first…say Rosalie’s or even Alice’s. Jacob certainly kept telling Bella to wake up and realize that he wasn’t as perfect as she thought he was.

    Real life is full of Jacob’s, but also the occasional Edwards (as in perfect for you), and lots of Mikes, Erics, and even the occasional James and Aros. Obviously, it takes a LONG while to figure out which category guys fit into.

    And while I’m completely Team Edward, I’ve never thought Jacob was a bad choice.

    • Stacey

      You never know how much you appreciate the Edward’s until you date a WHOLE lot of Mikes and one truly evil James. Scary thing his name really was James.

      • TeamSeth

        Did he steal a video camera from your house and say “let’s make a movie” while rubbing your face with dirty fingernails… because that would be uber creepy and I would want to send you lots of cards with Ian on the front.

        • TeamSeth

          This made me think about how I often wonder if I could be with an actor who generally plays bad guys, especially uber creepy ones. Like Cillian Murphy for instance… I think he’s hot, I mean, maybe not mind blowing, but if he tried to pick me up in a pub I’d go along with it and give him my number (if I were single obviously)… but then he goes and plays the role of Scarecrow. I just don’t know if I could see that film and then have sex with him. I’d just be waiting for him to give his little grin and say, “Do you want to see my mask?” /shudder.

          • natteringyeahrobber

            Viggo Mortenson. Alan Rickman. Christoph Waltz. All have played bad guys soooo well. And that’s the appeal. The talent, the incredible talent to play bad but not actually be bad. Now don’t tell me you don’t want to get jiggy with the Viggy (sorry, that was so lame, but.) Seriously, TS. I’ll see right through you.

          • TeamSeth

            Um, wait, were YOU the person I was having convo about hot LOTR viggo vs. hildago viggo? Or do you just *know* me…

            Christoph Waltz, wow, I hadn’t thought about him in a bit. I’ve only seen him in Inglorious Basterds, what else was he in where played a decent nice loving non-sociopath murdering man?

          • natteringyeahrobber

            Re: Hildago Viggo – wasn’t me, though I have had that in my Netflix queue for a long while, might need to bump it to the top. But anyhow, my theory is that it is easier to play good than bad. To be bad, genuinely bad, you need to be a very convincing actor, otherwise it comes off as comical and/or B-grade. And to be bad without possessing some sort of first-hand criminal knowledge (or psychosis) requires enormous sensitivity, perception, emotional depth, focus and talent. All attractive intellectual qualities. Add good (especially if unconventional) looks, a decent script and a commanding screen persona and you’ve got serious sex appeal. Enter Viggo (not a command). He’s got it. Rickman’s got it. And I think Pattinson will prove he’s got it too in Cosmopolis. As for Waltz, I think I found an example of him being TOTALLY normal. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLLdiKtGvpA

          • Anonymous

            Please tell me Rickman is not on your “list”. Maybe it’s because I only see him as Snape even tho he was in other things.

          • http://www.examiner.com/twilight-in-national/breaking-dawn-fan-art-picture-2 natteringyeahrobber

            My real list is short, RFM. Essentially just Rob. But I fell for Rickman back when I saw him in Robin Hood. He played Sheriff George of Nottingham and stole the show. Also loved him in Die Hard. He’s just so good at being bad. And I adore his voice.

          • Anonymous

            You and I have a similar List. ;) And I love Rickman’s voice, too. He’s baaaad. :)

          • Anonymous

            You and I have a similar List. ;) And I love Rickman’s voice, too. He’s baaaad. :)

          • TeamSeth

            Rickman is NOT on my list. Don’t worry.

          • TeamSeth

            Rickman is NOT on my list. Don’t worry.

        • Anonymous

          ROFLMFAO!!!

        • Anonymous

          ROFLMFAO!!!

    • Anonymous

      Me too. Had there been no Edward (horrid thought, I know but go with me on this), I would have totally been on the Jacob band wagon. I thought he was a great catch, but there was Edward.

      • Anonymous

        right. that is sort of part of the story, isn’t it? Jacob is great for Bella, she wouldn’t have been UNhappy…except for the Epic Undying Love-ness of Edward, and so…there is no choice.

        I came close to marrying a Jacob, and, you know, he was lovely, sweet, cute….but there was something missing. It was awful to break up with him because there was nothing wrong, exactly. I would have been happy enough, but I wouldn’t have had the (cheesy title but it works) Life Partner that I have with Mr. Slut. (true story: middle name: Edward)

      • Anonymous

        right. that is sort of part of the story, isn’t it? Jacob is great for Bella, she wouldn’t have been UNhappy…except for the Epic Undying Love-ness of Edward, and so…there is no choice.

        I came close to marrying a Jacob, and, you know, he was lovely, sweet, cute….but there was something missing. It was awful to break up with him because there was nothing wrong, exactly. I would have been happy enough, but I wouldn’t have had the (cheesy title but it works) Life Partner that I have with Mr. Slut. (true story: middle name: Edward)

        • Anonymous

          Love it. (middle name Edward.)

          I think my hubs was meant to be a Jacob with his Edward moments. I don’t think you have been here long though to know that Mr TJE’s name is actually Jacob Edward (Hence the name despite my being Team Edward girl. My screen name used to be JacobEdwardsWife. But Mr TJE would try to get me to tell him what Team I was on and I’d always reply, “I’m Team Jacob Edward honey, Team You babe.” So I changed it. Plus I like this one better.)

          • Anonymous

            “Team You, babe” Love it. Oh, the things our boys put up with.

            Although I have to sit and listen to “Minecraft this, Drupal Web Development that”, so I guess it’s even.

          • TeamSeth

            Win! I wish I had a coder at home to help me with some websites… BUT I also don’t really want to deal all the bandwidth usage during WoW raids.

          • Anonymous

            Yes, a built-in semi-Edward coder is useful. Also geeks are sexy. To me.

        • Anonymous

          Love it. (middle name Edward.)

          I think my hubs was meant to be a Jacob with his Edward moments. I don’t think you have been here long though to know that Mr TJE’s name is actually Jacob Edward (Hence the name despite my being Team Edward girl. My screen name used to be JacobEdwardsWife. But Mr TJE would try to get me to tell him what Team I was on and I’d always reply, “I’m Team Jacob Edward honey, Team You babe.” So I changed it. Plus I like this one better.)

  • http://www.talksupe.wordpress.com snowwhitedrifted

    I married a Charlie. But without the copstache.
    Sportsman, protective, funny, buds with everyone in town, drinks beer while cleaning his shotgun… the only thing missing is the plaid… oh and my Charlie can cook.
    I’m not a Bella or a Renee, I’m an Alice, so it works. ;)

    • Stacey

      Charlie always loved that Alice! ;0)

    • Anonymous

      OOOhhh almost made a really huge mistake b/c I read your line *buds* everyone in town, TOTALLY wrong..phew…glad I reread it..Yup..I am back! Missed you SWD..

      • http://www.talksupe.wordpress.com snowwhitedrifted

        CYN!! Hello there, so good to see you!!!

        LOL- no, my Charlie isn’t into that kind of bud

        • http://www.talksupe.wordpress.com snowwhitedrifted

          I changed “buds” to “buddies” just to clarify. LOL

          • Anonymous

            ROFLMAO.. you know how my brain works right? How can I explain? Okay when I first read it, I “saw” BEDS not BUDS and then you clarified what you meant I was confused all over again…not understanding “buds”…Oh Lawd….LOL..I have been away too long…and boy have I missed laughing so hard!!! :)

          • Anonymous

            ROFLMAO.. you know how my brain works right? How can I explain? Okay when I first read it, I “saw” BEDS not BUDS and then you clarified what you meant I was confused all over again…not understanding “buds”…Oh Lawd….LOL..I have been away too long…and boy have I missed laughing so hard!!! :)

    • MariaCecilia

      I’m Team Charlie! Buy a copstache and glue it on while he sleeps: this will win him over once he wakes up and looks in the mirror. It was meant to be!

      • http://www.talksupe.wordpress.com snowwhitedrifted

        I’m so doing it with a fake beard!!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/lovindashow lovindashow

    I dated an Edward, right after college. He wasn’t as “perfectly handsome” as Edward, but he was plenty sexy–romantic and attentive in the relationship; wealthy (but self-made); well-read, incredible taste in music and made music too; we talked for hours and hours about everything; and he was the first guy I was with that was really great in bed–like, SKILLED (lol). To top it off: he was an actual rocket scientist (albeit, high-level computer engineer and programmer)–he was so damned smart, and I was in awe from the first date.

    But he WAS neurotic, and I needed someone more laid-back. I work hard, but I play hard too, and he wasn’t accepting of my diverse group of friends, and that was just the deal-breaker.

    I would say my partner is more of an Emmett. He’s hilarious, enthusiastic, unfailingly loyal but speaks his mind. And he’s wayyyyy hotter than that musician rocket scientist. And tons more fun. :)

    • Anonymous

      I love Emmett!!

  • Anonymous

    I was trying to remember (it’s been a long time) and then I realized I did have a crush on an Edward once–beautiful, smart, funny, courteous, controlling, loved the same things I did, but then–I realized when it was too late–unattainable because he was GAY!

    • Latersbaby

      You just made my day!!!

    • MariaCecilia

      You shouldn’t give up over one little thing like that. I mean, Bella never gave up on Edward for being a VAMPIRE for heaven’s sake! ;-)

      • Anonymous

        Alas, sexual orientation is probably a much bigger obstacle than vampirism when it comes to dating or finding a mate . . .

  • Anonymous

    My husband’s neither Jacob or Edward by personality, but he was my best friend for a long time before I was remotely interested romantically, so there’s a Jacob aspect to it.
    So yes Moon, pay attention to the Jacobs in your life. One morning you may wake up and find you can’t imagine life without one of them. So you marry him.

  • Latersbaby

    I think there is something very paternal about Edward’s love. That kind of controlling, protective love might be desirable at times–but ultimately I’d rather marry my friend over my father.

  • Latersbaby

    I think there is something very paternal about Edward’s love. That kind of controlling, protective love might be desirable at times–but ultimately I’d rather marry my friend over my father.

  • http://twitter.com/#!/poochi_mama poochimama

    As long I don’t find out 5 years from now that I’ve married an Eric Yorkie, I’m cool.

    • http://www.examiner.com/twilight-in-national/breaking-dawn-fan-art-picture-2 natteringyeahrobber

      I once dated an Eric Yorkie. I should have known better. He even looked like Eric. When he tried to kiss me, I panicked and called the whole thing off. One of my better decisions. We did remain friends and I invited him to my wedding. He really was excited about it and RSVPd and had me help him pick out a suit even. Then he showed up late (like at the end of the reception), sans suit, with some drunk woman who ended up throwing up in the bushes outside. Never heard from him again.

      I think Eric Yorkies are born, though, not made. I would not worry about your husband turning into Eric. :)

  • Anonymous

    Can I just say how much I’m loving the comments today? I guess I just love stories about, well, love. I think we all have a little bit of Twilight/Gone With the Wind/Casablanca/Love Actually etc. in our pasts. It’s fun to talk about them. I also think that’s what makes Twilight so darn successful. All jokes aside, it simply hits on that romantic nerve in a way that another story hasn’t managed to do in a long, long time. And that’s also why it drives people nuts.

    A post like this – and comments like these – help us revisit why we all just simply like Twilight so much.

    And yes, as others have said to Moon, you should keep giving those Jacobs a chance. Looking back on things, I ignored a lot of Jacobs (and Mikes and Erics) that I really should not have. I’m a firm believer that a solid friendship, good will and trust is the most important foundation to a really successful romance.

  • MariaCecilia

    I guess the problem is we’re talking fictional characters here, and no one ever married one of those: we are all stuck with real people out here in Reality. :-) But if Edward is more musical, intellectual and romantic than Jacob, and if Jacob is more practical, robust and sweet in a down-to-earth kind of way, then I definitely married Edward. (He can even brood a little sometimes, but he has no stalker tendencies. That I know of…)

    • TeamSeth

      Well, you would’ve been asleep for the stalker bits…

      • Anonymous

        *snort* Hahaha!

      • Anonymous

        *snort* Hahaha!

  • eatmyjorts

    I don’t mind them all being Jacobs. Just saying.

  • Anonymous

    Moon- thanks for including one of my favorite Taylor pictures! :)

    My opinion- going with the definition of Edward as mysterious, unobtainable, and perfect I think that Edward might not really exist. He might seem that way at first but I think that once you get to know him he is no longer mysterious, you’re with him so he’s obviously obtainable, and let’s be honest everyone has flaws. He becomes, in short, more like a Jacob- a good friend, with the possibility for a lasting, healthy relationship. Haven’t met mine yet, but can I just say that it wouldn’t hurt if he looked a little like the ‘real’ Jacob too?

  • Mamf

    Hmmm I have never thought of that before. If I really think about it then I married a Jacob too (although I am team Edward all the way). I don’t think there is such a thing as a real life Edward, they only exist in movies or dreams.

  • Anonymous

    Also: RP being a huge nerd just makes him more hotness to me. I loves me some awkward nerds.

  • Panstink

    Had an Edward. He left. 3 years later married my Jacob. He was a LOT more patient then Twi’s Jacob.

  • Anonymous

    Sorry… I married an Edward…. broody… hot…green eyes… possessive… loving… protective… musician … intelligent … mature…
    I had a Guy… while in the dating phase with my “Edward” who insisted he was the one for me… ironically named James… he tried to break us up… he forced me to kiss him … (he got punched in the face… by me..) he was immature .. ridiculously tall..over 6’7″… had a group of friends who had his back at all times and was 2 years younger than me… oh… and obsessed with fixing up an old Suburban .. I wanted a friend… he wanted more… he will never be allowed with my daughter lol

  • MyveryownEdward

    Married my own Edward for sure! A passionate sometimes moody man who stood strong in his beliefs for purity until marriage… He never frivolously dated because he was always looking for me. 10 years, one child, (ironically named Esme before the books were even out), 2 Volvos, and still living in rainy Seattle, we are still as madly in love as our wedding day. I had a Jacob in my life and ladies, don’t settle for him! Edward is so much more fulfilling and he really does exist!

  • Anabelenvelazquez

    aRE YOU STUPID? do you hate jacob ?? fuck you!

  • Bubs

    I was lucky enough to marry my Edward 35 years ago. To this day I still believe he is the “nicest, drop dead gorgeous, kindest man I have ever met and he describes me as his “best friend” [along with a few other "personal" descriptives that make me smile, which I won't go into here] . In my case I found I “liked” him, before I “loved” him. I think we’ve all seen “love” die – “like” normally doesn’t.

    Having said all that, I’m still Team Jacob [book and movie], I blame SM’s great writing and TL’s abs for that. I remember seeing an Twi interview with Rachelle Lefevre [Victoria] and she described “a Jacob” as the boy who YOU wanted to be “friends” with but he wanted more, and as she put it, most girls had “Jacob’s” in their lives.

    So Moon, my advice to you would be find someone you “like” and see what eventuates..there are Edwards out there, unfortunately they don’t “sparkle” [although Rob does do a good "sparkle", I'll give him that].

  • pattygirl

    chris weitz is a loser, he just try to become likable to everyone, see his tweet. just disappear alrdy. NM was the worse twilght adaptation same as david slade. Thank you catherine for caring enough to give us teh best twilght movie to date.

    back to jacob, yeah my brother is a Jacob because he only like mindless movies, he thinks with his fist not his brain. So Jacob ia a sidekick and loser. While Edward is the perfect man, a thinking man, loyal, patient and selfishless

  • Mania

    it´s kristen stewarts birthday today. she turns 21. that would have been a fun letter.

  • sw_twi_fan

    Jacob was only fun and adorable pre-transformation. I hope Stephenie meant Rob and Taylor was that kind of Jacob. Yay, Moon and UC pegged Rob as a super nerd. I’m more partial to those type of guys, like Eric Yorkie, nerdy but hilarious.

  • Anything4Rob

    Hmmm, I think it would be to good to be true to find a true, real Edward<3
    But if we are really in love, in our eyes he would be our Edward since we see the positive in him not the negative. Idk just my opinion(:

  • Anything4Rob

    Hmmm, I think it would be to good to be true to find a true, real Edward<3
    But if we are really in love, in our eyes he would be our Edward since we see the positive in him not the negative. Idk just my opinion(:

  • Anything4Rob

    Hmmm, I think it would be to good to be true to find a true, real Edward<3
    But if we are really in love, in our eyes he would be our Edward since we see the positive in him not the negative. Idk just my opinion(:

  • Anything4Rob

    Hmmm, I think it would be to good to be true to find a true, real Edward<3
    But if we are really in love, in our eyes he would be our Edward since we see the positive in him not the negative. Idk just my opinion(:

  • Lstroud

    Yes, all men are Jacobs. That’s the reason Edward had to be a vampire – Edwards and vampires really don’t exist. Not that I care – Twilight is the best!

  • Lstroud

    Yes, all men are Jacobs. That’s the reason Edward had to be a vampire – Edwards and vampires really don’t exist. Not that I care – Twilight is the best!

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